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#Chicago on Thursday, March 24, 2011



Links mentioned today:
http://i.imgur.com/U4M2n.gif
http://iowapublicradio.org/audio/perma/news110321a.m3u
http://www.moneychimp.com/features/tax_brackets.htm
http://www.myplates.com/LuxurySeries/PLPC176
http://www.vancethompsonvision.com/sioux-falls/lasik-procedures/custom-lasik.htm
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/cultureshock/flashpoints/theater/images/clockwork_big.jpg
http://official-swiss-national-languages.all-about-switzerland.info/index.html
http://i.imgur.com/dBXiO.gif
http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1300995263340.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6fFKkmIrWM
http://glamour-news.blogspot.com/2011/03/only-in-holland.html


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07:06 <sampson> dis is me 24/7 http://i.imgur.com/U4M2n.gif
07:49 <Volatile> hi
07:49 <Volatile> morning.
07:54 <sampson> howdy
07:54 <sampson> osx is 10 today
07:55 <Volatile> so are jobs
07:55 <Volatile> jobs report today
07:55 <Volatile> !
07:55 <sampson> !!!!!
07:55 <Volatile> and ORCL is reporting earnings
07:55 <sampson> MY TIME IS WRONG ON MY SERVER
07:57 <sampson> now it's really wrong
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07:58 <sampson> better
08:12 <Volatile> This week's issue of Famitsu magazine in Japan brings word of something called Biohazard: Revival Selection for the PS3 and 360. Details on this release are still slim as of this writing, but apparently the game combines Resident Evil 4 and the Dreamcast's Resident Evil Code: Veronica into a single package. The graphics on both are being fully remastered, with Famitsu showing off comparison screenshots between the original and HD editions.
08:12 <Volatile> nice
08:12 <Volatile> i loved code veronica!
08:13 <sampson> i could never get into the RE series
08:13 <sampson> 2 was the only one i actually played and beat
08:13 <Volatile> for the most part, the RE series is pretty bad.
08:13 <Volatile> RE3 and code veronica were the only ones i really enjoyed
08:13 <Volatile> ive played em all. havent beaten them all tho.
08:14 <Volatile> code veronica is on dreamcast
08:14 <Volatile> so it had stellar graphics
08:14 <sampson> pivot controls piss my shit off ^ max
08:14 <Volatile> hah
08:14 <sampson> yeah my friend played the shit out of CV
08:14 <Volatile> silent hill had pivot controls :)
08:15 <sampson> reason why i haven't played it
08:15 <Volatile> code veronica had a lot more elements of atmospheric horror on it, rather than straight run-and-gun bullshit the RE series is famous for
08:15 <Volatile> i do include knifing in run-and-gun
08:15 <Volatile> ;P
08:18 <Volatile> eww
08:18 <Volatile> just saw some screens for the code veronica HD ver
08:18 <Volatile> looks bad.
08:18 <Volatile> not a good HD treatment at all
08:18 <sampson> considering what they have to base off of not surprising
08:18 <Volatile> beyond good and evil HD did a good job.
08:19 <Volatile> haha
08:19 <Volatile> the new duke nukem game is delayed
08:19 <Volatile> haha.. hahahaha hahahah
08:19 <Volatile> is it april first?
08:19 <Volatile> wtf.
08:20 <Volatile> The release date was changed from May 3 (May 6 for outside the U.S.) to June 14 for the States and June 10 (for the international release).
08:20 <Volatile> According to the game's publisher, this is the "shortest" delay in the game's franchise.
08:20 <Volatile> hahaha
08:21 <Volatile> if the jobs data doesn't kill this shit off early, the market may do well today
08:22 <sampson> ?
08:22 <Volatile> !
08:22 <Volatile> unemployment data releases today
08:22 <Volatile> in teh morning
08:23 <sampson> oic
08:23 <Volatile> the futures are up
08:23 <Volatile> most of my shit is up 1% or more already
08:23 <Volatile> in premarket
08:39 <tronyx> morning
08:53 <scofflaw> haulin' ass, gettin' paid
08:53 <scofflaw> Volatile's motto
09:30 <Volatile> scoff
09:30 <Volatile> buy GM
09:30 <Volatile> TM closing!
09:30 <Volatile> :P
09:33 <scofflaw> what
09:33 <scofflaw> oh
09:33 <scofflaw> cuz earthquake and shit?
09:34 <Volatile> heh
09:34 <Volatile> yah
09:34 <Volatile> they cant get enough parts the states
09:34 <Volatile> cuz their supply chain is dependant on .jp
09:34 <scofflaw> word
09:34 <scofflaw> i been considering putting a down payment ona Tesla actually
09:34 <scofflaw> 5k
09:34 <scofflaw> get in line for a MOdel S
09:34 <scofflaw> shrug
09:34 <scofflaw> might be worth it, by the time it actually comes out i think i might be ready for a new car
09:35 <scofflaw> i just need a freakin garage
09:35 <Volatile> fuck yah. OMN
09:36 <Volatile> jobs data is p'good
09:36 <scofflaw> they're lying
09:36 <scofflaw> they always do
09:36 <scofflaw> they have incentive to do so
09:36 <scofflaw> damn them
09:36 <scofflaw> those theys
09:36 <Volatile> hah
09:36 <scofflaw> nobody respects the rule of law, so fuck it, lie on that shit
09:36 <scofflaw> lie to errbody
09:37 <scofflaw> ratings agencies? liars
09:37 <scofflaw> nm
09:39 <Volatile> fucking cold out this morning
09:39 <Volatile> :\
09:40 <Volatile> my neck was gettin' all numb heh
09:42 <scofflaw> scarves nikka
09:42 <scofflaw> 9:30a-10:30a – Java vs C/C++
09:42 <scofflaw> •Breakout session - 8th floor training room
09:42 <scofflaw> 11:30a-12:30p – The JVM Does What?
09:42 <scofflaw> •Breakout session – 8th floor training room
09:42 <scofflaw> •Come at least five minutes early to this one.
09:42 <scofflaw> 1:30p-2:30p – Towards a Coding Style for Scalable Nonblocking Data Structures
09:43 <scofflaw> •Breakout session – 8th floor training room
09:43 <scofflaw> 3:30 - Challenges and Directions in t he Multicore Era
09:43 <scofflaw> •On the 5th floor stairs for all of technology
09:43 <scofflaw> word
09:43 <scofflaw> JAVA YO
09:43 <scofflaw> i think i'll attend 3:30
09:44 <Volatile> yah, great.
09:44 <Volatile> i'd love to wear a scarf while i'm running
09:44 <Volatile> that'd be awesome
09:44 <Volatile> sweat stuck to my neck
09:44 <Volatile> scoff, classes at your company?
09:44 <scofflaw> we have a guest speaker
09:45 <scofflaw> he's a Java dude
09:45 <scofflaw> last month was an Erlang dude
09:45 <Volatile> fucking java.
09:45 <scofflaw> i want to take some trading classes
09:45 <scofflaw> :]
09:45 <scofflaw> first employee here was an intern, did some trading classes
09:45 <scofflaw> 14 years later he works in the hedge fund, and is a partner
09:46 <scofflaw> he looks like a goofball, his nickname is Shaggy
09:46 <scofflaw> heh
09:46 <scofflaw> he's like, a fat Shaggy
09:46 <Volatile> fun tiemz
09:46 <Volatile> think you'll keep the job for 14 years?
09:46 <Volatile> :P
09:47 <Volatile> i'm going to start a scofflaw job hedge fund
09:47 <Volatile> and short any bears.
09:47 <Volatile> ;P
09:48 <Volatile> lawl
09:48 <Volatile> i said bear, but i meant bull
09:48 <Volatile> ;P
09:51 <scofflaw> ehahah
09:51 <scofflaw> no
09:51 <scofflaw> i most likely will not stay that long
09:51 <scofflaw> i'm working on the "don't need a job" plan
09:51 <scofflaw> :P
09:51 <Volatile> yeah
09:51 <scofflaw> or how about
09:51 <Volatile> better start that hedge fund, bro
09:51 <Volatile> ;P
09:51 <scofflaw> "i'm ahedge fund manager" plan
09:51 <scofflaw> yea mang!
09:51 <scofflaw> i read they get special tax breakz and shit
09:51 <scofflaw> only suckers pay their taxes
09:51 <scofflaw> :/
09:52 <Volatile> thats why TAXS trades so well
09:52 <scofflaw> heard of some guy named anthony el gindi?
09:52 <scofflaw> sp?
09:52 <Volatile> shit was worth ten cents in december, now it's a whole fucking half dollar!
09:52 <Volatile> on 0 volume, g
09:52 <scofflaw> looks shady
09:53 <Volatile> TAXS is tax masters
09:53 <Volatile> that fat ginger
09:53 <scofflaw> i dunno who dat is
09:53 <Volatile> when motherfuckers dont pay their taxes
09:53 <Volatile> they call tax masters!
09:53 <scofflaw> ah word
09:53 <scofflaw> haha
09:53 <scofflaw> nice
09:53 <scofflaw> strike fear into them
09:53 <scofflaw> thats how shit works
09:53 <scofflaw> on all sorts of levels
09:54 <scofflaw> you know what i'm long on?
09:54 <scofflaw> dong
09:54 <scofflaw> i'm very long dong
09:54 <Volatile> i thought you were asian
09:54 <scofflaw> yes
09:55 <scofflaw> i have some japanese contraption
09:55 <Volatile> is that your speculative trade?
09:55 <Volatile> dong length increase?
09:55 <Volatile> heh
09:55 <scofflaw> *nod*
09:56 <Volatile> imma sell 52 week scoffjob puts, and buy 10 year scoffjobs calls
09:56 <Volatile> heh
09:56 <Volatile> naked puts, brah
09:56 <scofflaw> word
09:57 <scofflaw> come up with something legit like that
09:57 <scofflaw> make moneys
09:57 <Volatile> haha
09:57 <Volatile> it is legit
09:57 <scofflaw> CEO was talking about the idea of a like, a stock racing game
09:58 <scofflaw> like horse racing
09:58 <Volatile> i just cant find anyone who will underwrite it
09:58 <scofflaw> pick 2 stocks
09:58 <scofflaw> battle
09:58 <tronyx> ROYALE!
09:58 <Volatile> WORST MOST OVER-HYPED MOVIE EVAR
09:58 <scofflaw> not saying thats a billion dollar idea, but an example of the kind of thinking that can make some luciano
09:58 <Volatile> scoff
09:58 <Volatile> here's my awesome business plan
09:58 <Volatile> open a bar across the street from the NYSE at any cost
09:59 <Volatile> happy hour every day for an hour at closing bell
09:59 <Volatile> good day? everyone celebrates
09:59 <Volatile> bad day? everyone cries in their beer
09:59 <Volatile> ;P
09:59 <scofflaw> haha
09:59 <scofflaw> not a bad idea
09:59 <scofflaw> i'm certain similar bars exist here near CBOT
09:59 <Volatile> i bet.
09:59 <Volatile> the CBOT has it good
09:59 <scofflaw> ie, Ceres
09:59 <scofflaw> thats where the bitches idle looking for traders
09:59 <Volatile> go there, scoff
09:59 <Volatile> tell em you're the owner
10:00 <scofflaw> hah
10:00 <scofflaw> i want another hustle
10:00 * Volatile dusts his knuckles off on his chest. "I placed a trade for 50m USD today, ladies."
10:01 <scofflaw> "want a ride in my 01 Jeep Cherokee?"
10:01 <Volatile> scofflaw, go to commissary, buy tons of coffee, down-bad and re-sell at $1/bag.
10:01 <Volatile> down-bag
10:01 <Volatile> that's a great hustle.
10:01 <Volatile> gangstas be running that shit all over!
10:01 <scofflaw> word
10:01 <scofflaw> you know what a good hustle is?
10:01 <scofflaw> being a cop
10:02 <Volatile> you know what a better hustle is?
10:02 <Volatile> being a judge
10:02 <Volatile> !
10:03 <scofflaw> i think being a cop would be better
10:03 <scofflaw> being on the streets
10:03 <scofflaw> interacting with all the players
10:03 <scofflaw> taking their monies
10:03 <scofflaw> drugs
10:03 <scofflaw> selling them to their competition
10:04 <scofflaw> but really
10:04 <scofflaw> i'd like to own a bank
10:04 <scofflaw> more money than a bank bitch
10:04 <scofflaw> cuz thats the best way to steal from one
10:04 <scofflaw> is own that bitch
10:04 <Volatile> sure beats a real job
10:05 <Volatile> meetung
10:05 <scofflaw> fuck a job
10:05 <scofflaw> god damnit
10:06 <scofflaw> i think i should just be a hippie
10:06 <scofflaw> living on a commume
10:07 <scofflaw> commune
10:07 <scofflaw> grow dreads
10:07 <scofflaw> eat dirt
10:08 <tronyx> talk to igor
10:09 <scofflaw> who dat
10:09 <tronyx> a hippie
10:09 <tronyx> igor47 is the guy, but he won't be awake for another 9 hours or so
10:09 <tronyx> he lives in california
10:09 <scofflaw> word
10:31 <tronyx> so what's fun and exciting this morning?
10:35 <scofflaw> meetings
10:37 <@chrism> he's a hippy
10:37 <@chrism> fyi
10:48 <tronyx> hi guys
10:49 <tronyx> i am on the internet
10:49 <tronyx> need anything?
10:50 <@chrism> Nah, I think we're good
10:50 <@chrism> but JUST IN CASE, stick around
10:53 <scofflaw> lexchange is broke
10:54 <@chrism> what's a lexchange?
10:54 <m1k[3y]> format c:
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11:01 <SIDWORK> gm
11:09 <@chrism> shit, ubersmith got rid of "pro" and just sell DE now
11:09 <@chrism> I wonder if I get upgraded to DE for free as well
11:09 <@chrism> lol
11:11 <Volatile> deere is doing quite well.
11:13 <scofflaw> CAT
11:14 <Volatile> yes
11:14 <Volatile> catepillar is doing well too
11:14 <scofflaw> i learned it from watching cramer
11:14 <Volatile> loo
11:14 <scofflaw> heheh
11:14 <Volatile> cramer is probably still saying to buy BAC
11:15 <scofflaw> they no nothing
11:15 <scofflaw> er
11:15 <scofflaw> know
11:15 <Volatile> hah
11:15 <Volatile> at least he's passionate about the fed
11:15 <Volatile> ;P
11:15 <scofflaw> haha
11:15 <scofflaw> i never watch his show but i was watching (i think) American Greed and he was after
11:15 <scofflaw> so i watched a few mins, shrug
11:15 <Volatile> i watch it occasionally after bad market days
11:15 <scofflaw> i like american greed
11:16 <Volatile> it's nice to hear someone who isn't negative 100% of the time
11:16 <Volatile> the entire market is just negative news
11:16 <Volatile> endless negativity
11:16 <scofflaw> Volatile you heard of postville iowa?
11:16 <Volatile> i've heard of iowa, and its residents are pretty much all the same
11:16 <scofflaw> yea, he actually mentioned that yesterday.. saying the media is dominated by bad news so how did th emarket go up?
11:16 <scofflaw> cuz its underreporting good news
11:16 <scofflaw> Volatile this was a town where 33% of the population worked for a Kosher slaughterhouse
11:16 <Volatile> the market goes up because economic indicators are good
11:17 <Volatile> the news is negative, because no one wants to be wrong about being positive
11:17 <Volatile> it's easy to always be negative
11:17 <scofflaw> was an interesting story, i thought you may have heard about it
11:17 <Volatile> if you're wrong, everyone is happy
11:17 <Volatile> if you're right, "i told you so"
11:17 <Volatile> newp
11:17 <scofflaw> was a big INS bust and shit
11:17 <scofflaw> they got raided
11:17 <Volatile> IA NPR is pretty hilarious
11:17 <Volatile> this morning they were talking about IA's big political agendas coming up
11:18 <Volatile> 'ban abortion completely', 'abolish the department of edumacation'
11:18 <Volatile> 'allow morning dove and bear hunting'
11:18 <Volatile> that's IA.
11:18 <Volatile> they seriously want to abolish the department of education
11:18 <scofflaw> well, i doubt the average iowan does
11:18 <Volatile> because they teach 'environmentalism'
11:18 <Volatile> uh
11:18 <Volatile> lawl?
11:18 <Volatile> these are all expected to pass.
11:19 <Volatile> perhaps you havent been to iowa
11:19 <scofflaw> i have actually
11:19 <scofflaw> numerous times
11:19 <Volatile> they're the midwest's bible belt.
11:19 <scofflaw> and while i don't have the highest opinion of the population, i still doubt that's legislation that came from them
11:19 <scofflaw> i'm guessing, it's a republican in office trying to push the bill through, and using the normal tricks to convince people it's something they actually want
11:20 <scofflaw> but maybe i'm wrong!
11:20 <scofflaw> :)
11:20 <Volatile> these are upcoming votes from constituents
11:20 <Volatile> [sic]
11:20 <Volatile> ;P
11:20 <Volatile> constituents
11:20 <Volatile> close!
11:20 <Volatile> wait
11:20 <Volatile> i spelled it right
11:20 <Volatile> loo
11:20 <scofflaw> who introduced the bill
11:21 <Volatile> iowa.gov
11:21 <Volatile> begin.
11:21 <scofflaw> i thought you knew all of this
11:21 <scofflaw> can't you point me somewhere more specific?
11:21 <scofflaw> i see no mention of the department of educatino on the front page
11:21 <scofflaw> education too
11:21 <scofflaw> :P
11:21 <Volatile> lmgtfy
11:22 <scofflaw> i will look for some sex offenders
11:22 <Volatile> there's tons of those in IA
11:22 <Volatile> like at least 20% of the population!
11:22 <Volatile> ;P
11:22 <scofflaw> please google it for me
11:22 <scofflaw> because my initial searches didn't turn up anything either
11:22 <scofflaw> i thought you had all the infos
11:30 <@chrism> ya know, it wouldn't surprise me in the least
11:31 <@chrism> you have a huge trend with the republicans currently to apparently destroy education in the states
11:31 <@chrism> keep 'em ignorant and you can pass whatever you want =(
11:35 <@scrim> http://iowapublicradio.org/audio/perma/news110321a.m3u
11:35 <@scrim> there
11:36 <@scrim> google for des moines npr, click on newsroom
11:36 <@scrim> you all fail at the internet
11:37 <Volatile> loo
11:37 <Volatile> whatever man. as long as the morning doves cant be hunted.
11:37 <Volatile> i'm all good.
11:37 <@scrim> ahah
11:38 <@scrim> i bet people only want to hunt them because they are noisy as fuck :)
11:38 <@scrim> they can't possibly be worth eating
11:38 <Volatile> well
11:38 <Volatile> one of the people on the show was like
11:38 <Volatile> MAAAI SON LOVES A-HUNTIN'
11:38 <Volatile> HE LIKES HUNTIN' ALL KINDS-A AMINALS
11:38 <Volatile> then he makes some comment about killing bears
11:39 <@scrim> how many bears are in iowa?
11:39 <@scrim> my guess is 0 outside of zoos
11:39 <Volatile> yeah, i dunno
11:39 <Volatile> at that point in the show, i was stepping out of my car anyway
11:39 <Volatile> it's just so refreshing to hear iowa NPR in the morning
11:39 <@scrim> eheh
11:39 <Volatile> you learn all kinds of interesting things
11:40 <Volatile> my favorite IA republican is a 52 year old man that lives in a small bedroom in his mom's house
11:40 <@scrim> chicago npr is what made me think npr was more than the farm report and garison keelior :)
11:40 <Volatile> who is against taxing the .5% super rich a little more than the rest
11:40 <Volatile> because that's "unamerican"
11:40 <@scrim> ahah
11:40 <scofflaw> constitutionally it is
11:40 <@chrism> no
11:40 <@chrism> it's not
11:40 <@chrism> at all
11:40 <Volatile> srs dude
11:40 <Volatile> plz dont spout teaparty bs ;P
11:41 <scofflaw> i'm pretty sure the only taxes allowed by the constitution are those that are the same across the board
11:41 <scofflaw> i forget the political term
11:41 <@chrism> we scale taxes up based on pay anyway, so someone that makes 75k pays more taxes than someone that makes 20k
11:41 <@scrim> lots of taxes were intentionally aimed at the wealthy throughout american history, on purpose and out in the open
11:41 <@chrism> we just have a limit around 250k or something and don't scale up after that
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11:41 <@chrism> so really taxing the rich more would just be a logical extension of what we already do
11:41 <scofflaw> taxes on like smokes, that everyone pays the same
11:41 <scofflaw> is american
11:42 <@scrim> and beyond declaring that the congress has the right to levy taxes
11:42 <scofflaw> a varying tax based on shit like income, i believe is not
11:42 <SIDWORK> It does not matter what side of the fence your on.. The people with money control the world and the laws
11:42 <scofflaw> but we do it anyway
11:42 <scofflaw> :P
11:42 <@scrim> I don't think the constitution has anythign to say on the matter
11:42 <@chrism> scofflaw: that's how taxes work now... protip, google tax brackets
11:42 <SIDWORK> the laws are here to "Protect us" but also to keep everyone in line..
11:42 <@scrim> I welcome you to quote me the clause that disputes my claim
11:42 <@scrim> i'd love to know about it
11:42 <scofflaw> chrism i'm very aware of that
11:42 <scofflaw> what i'm trying to say is that according to the consitution the income tax is illegal
11:42 <@scrim> where?
11:42 <@scrim> quotes or you're wrong
11:42 <@chrism> what? I don't believe it is at all
11:43 <SIDWORK> Technically income tax is illegal
11:43 <@scrim> where?
11:43 <@scrim> quotes or you're wrong
11:43 <@chrism> in fact, the true spirit is "no taxation without representation", howevera ll of these tax bumps have been put into place by people that were elected
11:43 <scofflaw> whatever i don't give a fuck about you
11:43 <@chrism> http://www.moneychimp.com/features/tax_brackets.htm
11:43 <Volatile> uh
11:43 <SIDWORK> however the courts will rule against that
11:43 <@chrism> 373k apparently
11:43 <Volatile> dude
11:43 <Volatile> the 16th amendment allows it
11:43 <Volatile> but there are idiots who think the 16th amendment was ratified unjustly
11:43 <Volatile> there are also idiots that think obama isn't a resident
11:43 <SIDWORK> it was
11:43 <Volatile> ..or that we've never been to the moon
11:43 <Volatile> ..or that we live on a flat planet
11:44 <@scrim> so your idea of persuasive arguement is to declare something, then dismiss those who question it and refuse to provide backing evidence.
11:44 <@scrim> awesome
11:44 <Volatile> referring to me?
11:44 <SIDWORK> Umm.. did you do the research on how the 16th amendment was voted on?
11:44 <Volatile> plz google 16th amendment.
11:44 <@scrim> Volatile to scoff
11:44 <Volatile> SIDWORK, plz do be sure to read both sides.
11:45 <Volatile> SIDWORK, if you want to believe one side, you'll easily find supporting evidence.
11:45 <@chrism> so true
11:45 <@chrism> esp on the fucking internet
11:45 <@chrism> lol
11:45 <Volatile> there's also a common law known as 'domain'
11:45 <Volatile> so even if it was passed unjustly? too fucking bad.
11:45 <Volatile> pay your taxes.
11:45 <Volatile> heh
11:46 <Volatile> or
11:46 <scofflaw> people have gotten away without paying them
11:46 <Volatile> call tax masters.
11:46 <scofflaw> and going to court, and being OK
11:46 <Volatile> ticker symbol: TAXS
11:46 <@chrism> haha
11:46 <@chrism> very few and far between
11:46 <@chrism> =P
11:46 <@chrism> and usually they're told 'stfu and pay your taxes'
11:46 <Volatile> there's lots of tax loopholes. we're all aware of that.
11:46 <scofflaw> thats besides the point, it's been done is all i'm saying
11:46 <@chrism> edge cases do not mandate general practice
11:46 <@scrim> scofflaw - people have gotten away with murder too, that doesn't make it legal
11:46 <SIDWORK> From where I am standing .. If income tax is something that needs to happen to support our way of living then it should be fairly distributed.
11:46 <Volatile> ive taken advantage of some of them
11:47 <Volatile> ;P
11:47 <Volatile> did you just describe taxing as 'fair'?
11:47 <Volatile> heh
11:47 <SIDWORK> Like I said before the people with money control everything. So it is not an even playing field.
11:47 <@chrism> fwiw, they only control it because we let them
11:47 <Volatile> someone who makes 50billion a year, and is taxed 75%, will live happily ever after.
11:48 <@chrism> so we all have to shoulder a bit of that blame
11:48 <Volatile> if you make 20k/yr, and ar taxed 10%, you are not living happily ever after
11:48 <@chrism> technically 20k would get you taxed @ 15%
11:48 <SIDWORK> If you enjoy social services such as firefighters and streets and police then yes the tax should be distributed in a fair manner.
11:48 <@chrism> =P
11:48 <Volatile> i was going above and below the tax brackets ;P
11:48 <Volatile> no one is taxed 75%
11:48 <@chrism> aah k
11:48 <SIDWORK> not any more.
11:48 <Volatile> right
11:48 <SIDWORK> back in the 50's that was the case
11:49 <Volatile> sid, you can't tax anyone "fairly"
11:49 <Volatile> there's no such thing.
11:49 <@scrim> flat rate consumption tax
11:49 <SIDWORK> Well.. Face it.. no one wants to pay tax
11:49 <SIDWORK> I am all for a flat rate tax
11:49 <@scrim> SIDWORK - no one wants to work either, but everyone likes paychecks
11:49 <Volatile> one could argue that a flat tax rate is unfair too
11:49 <SIDWORK> exempt food
11:49 <Volatile> because it hurts people with the least amount of money
11:49 <@scrim> that's not how shit works :)
11:49 <@scrim> Volatile - right
11:49 <Volatile> again, if you only made 20k, paying a 5% tax on milk could be damaging
11:49 <@scrim> though if you levy the same tax on services
11:50 <@scrim> it works out a little better
11:50 <SIDWORK> flat rate tax and exempt certain things like food and I think it would work.
11:50 <@scrim> rich guy pays a tax on the fees he pays to his lawyers and accountants, etc
11:50 <SIDWORK> all of the illegal people living in this country would pay a tax for everything they purchased.
11:50 <Volatile> wait now. you're saying we should exempt items from the consumption tax, just because poor people can't afford it?
11:50 <Volatile> that's fucking unfair!
11:50 <@scrim> ^^^
11:50 <SIDWORK> food
11:51 <SIDWORK> people need to eat
11:51 <SIDWORK> they dont need to buy a fucken boat
11:51 <SIDWORK> :)
11:51 <Volatile> sid, im just arguing every time you switch sides ;P
11:51 <@chrism> what if they're a fisherman?
11:51 <@scrim> people need to have a roof over their heads, should rent be free too?
11:51 <Volatile> because no tax is fair.
11:51 <@chrism> ^-^
11:51 <@scrim> people need to get to work, should cars be free?
11:51 <Volatile> if everyone makes differnt sums of money, taxes aren't fair.
11:51 <SIDWORK> instead of property tax pay a flat tax
11:51 <Volatile> so anyone who argues about fairness, can go fuck themselves
11:52 <Volatile> masses win.
11:52 <Volatile> tax the wealthy
11:52 <Volatile> ;P
11:52 <SIDWORK> if you rent your paying taxes
11:52 <Volatile> who am i renting my taxes to?
11:52 <SIDWORK> its calculated in your rent
11:52 <Volatile> nm
11:52 <scofflaw> duh
11:52 <@chrism> actually that's not true at all
11:52 * Volatile removes grammarhat
11:52 <@chrism> if you're renting you're not paying taxes
11:52 <scofflaw> you're paying someone elses
11:52 <scofflaw> indirectly
11:52 <SIDWORK> Dude.. I pay almost 7k in property taxes a year
11:52 <@scrim> ahah I caught it vol :)
11:53 <Volatile> heh
11:53 <@chrism> you're paying someone else, however that does not mean you're paying taxes, you're enabling them to pay taxes
11:53 <SIDWORK> so I know alittle something about paying taxes..
11:53 <@chrism> which they may/may not do
11:53 <@chrism> SIDWORK: we all do
11:53 <@chrism> lol
11:53 <Volatile> you know what's fucking hilarious?
11:53 <@chrism> WELCOME TO AMERICA
11:53 <Volatile> last year, i ended up in a different tax bracket
11:53 <@chrism> (any country)
11:53 <Volatile> ..i expected to have to pay out more than was withheld
11:53 <Volatile> especially considering my securities winnings
11:53 <SIDWORK> Since 75 we work more and get paid less..
11:53 <Volatile> i got a large refund.
11:53 <Volatile> hah
11:54 <SIDWORK> the rich get richer and the poor get poorer
11:54 <Volatile> who is we?
11:54 <Volatile> i work less, and get paid more.
11:54 <SIDWORK> Congrats..
11:54 <Volatile> i find that entirely awesome, and especially fair
11:55 <Volatile> in all honesty, i'd be much happier paying higher taxes.
11:55 <Volatile> if it went to important shit
11:55 <SIDWORK> They say... when you are young you are a democrat.. then when you have something to lose when you get older.. you become a republican.
11:55 <Volatile> ..and if you're a retard, you join the teaparty
11:55 <SIDWORK> lol
11:55 <Volatile> i know there's one or two in here :)
11:55 * Volatile pokes
11:55 <SIDWORK> Teaparty is pretty fucked up..
11:56 <@chrism> oh god tell me about it
11:56 <@chrism> they're all around down here
11:56 <@chrism> even have tea party license plates
11:56 <@chrism> lol
11:56 <Volatile> haha
11:56 <Volatile> time to bust out the sharpie!
11:56 <SIDWORK> I live in Aurora/Naperville
11:56 <Volatile> "teabaggin'"
11:56 <Volatile> "PROUD TEABAGGER"
11:56 <SIDWORK> I am surrounded by idiots
11:56 <Volatile> or print up some cover-up bumper stickers
11:57 <Volatile> 'TEABAGGIN' - I RECEIVE'
11:57 <Volatile> haha
11:57 <Volatile> only old white people would mistakenly refer to themselves as tea baggers
11:57 <Volatile> when i first heard that shit, i was like "this must be an Onion story"
11:58 <SIDWORK> One thing to keep in mind... if things keep going the way they are.. then people are not going to be able to afford to buy any goods. Everyone loses
11:58 <@chrism> http://www.myplates.com/LuxurySeries/PLPC176
11:58 <@chrism> ironic note: it's the "luxury series"
11:58 <Volatile> haha
11:59 <Volatile> one of my jkd/kali instructors is a die-hard republican. he and i go back and forth about shit pretty regularly
12:00 <Volatile> nothin' like mixing fighting and politics
12:00 <Volatile> u mad brah? COME AT ME BRAH?
12:00 <Volatile> heh
12:00 <@chrism> ya know, the biggest problem with the US today as I see it is purely partisan politics. The fact that we're entrenched in a right vs. left deal over crap issues lets them fuck us on the massive issues tht no one ever hears about =(
12:01 <scofflaw> that is because of a bigger problem
12:01 <@chrism> oh yeah?
12:01 <scofflaw> yes, fact.
12:01 <@chrism> oh yeah?
12:02 <SIDWORK> I like looking at old news from back in the 40's and 50's and seeing the shit they did back then. I thought the crap we see now was fucked up. the arguments had back then were just as stupid.
12:02 <scofflaw> yes, it was on the internet.
12:02 <@chrism> (this is the part where you fill in information)
12:02 <@chrism> =P
12:02 <scofflaw> haha
12:02 <scofflaw> in all seriousness
12:02 <scofflaw> i think that issue is directly related to corporate influence
12:02 <scofflaw> but thats just my opinion
12:02 <@chrism> oh absolutely, the fuel the partisan horseshit
12:02 <@chrism> er they
12:02 <SIDWORK> I agree.. people with money control goverment.
12:02 <@chrism> cause it keeps us busy from noticing what they're doing
12:02 <@chrism> =(
12:02 <SIDWORK> money talks.. bullshit walks
12:02 <scofflaw> SIDWORK amen
12:03 <@chrism> BUT SALLY CAN GET AN ABORTION IN MY STATE
12:03 <@chrism> ugh
12:03 <scofflaw> but i guess that's how it's always been,... although, it appears to be getting worse
12:03 <scofflaw> and not only that
12:03 <scofflaw> these people in power, have 0 respect for any laws
12:03 <scofflaw> and we allow that
12:03 <@chrism> agreed
12:03 <scofflaw> for wahtever reason, we allow it
12:03 <scofflaw> and so it goes on
12:03 <@chrism> because we're busy with the petty shit
12:03 <scofflaw> and they continue to use fear, and force, to impose their will on the rest
12:03 * chrism points to Huxley
12:04 <SIDWORK> I am not anti-making money.. I just think money dictates how laws are passed and our forgien policy.
12:04 <@chrism> ya know, I enjoy the idea of capitalism
12:04 <Volatile> sid, on that note, would you like to invest in my scoffjobs spread hedge fund?
12:04 <@chrism> however in our current state, we're a shining example of where it leads when unchecked
12:04 <SIDWORK> Did you guys see that video of the fat kid getting picked on? then the fat kid slammed the skinny kid to the ground.
12:05 <Volatile> selling 52 week scoffjob puts, and buying 10 year scoffjob calls
12:05 <Volatile> need investors
12:05 <Volatile> $100k minimum investment
12:05 <Volatile> !
12:05 <Volatile> heh
12:05 <SIDWORK> nice..
12:09 <sampson> woot
12:09 <sampson> gettin lasik
12:09 <Volatile> nice
12:10 <@chrism> yay, got an interested buyer in my ubersmith license
12:10 <@chrism> huzzah!
12:10 <Volatile> let me know when the braille keyboard comes in
12:10 <@chrism> that'll be 3500 i could use right now
12:10 <@chrism> best investment i've ever made, lol... initial cost of 500 bucks
12:10 <@chrism> =P
12:10 <SIDWORK> Thats just MEAN
12:10 <Volatile> ubersmith?
12:10 <@chrism> Billing/ticket/provisioning software
12:10 <@chrism> ubersmith.com
12:10 <Volatile> ah
12:10 <Volatile> how'd you land a cheaper license?
12:10 <@chrism> it's actually pretty awesome for hosting operations and datacenters
12:11 <@chrism> I've sold about 6 licenses for them via old employers, so they tipped me off that they were making their "cheap" license go away and they'd upgrade me to the big one for free
12:11 <@chrism> then a year later, they get rid of owned licenses and what I have costs 250/mo now
12:11 <@chrism> or 289 I think
12:11 <scofflaw> damn
12:11 <scofflaw> 289
12:11 <@chrism> mmhmm
12:11 <scofflaw> what i pay for parking monthly
12:11 <@chrism> lol
12:11 <scofflaw> sux
12:12 <@chrism> that's about what I pay to drive to work
12:12 <@chrism> yay toll roads
12:12 <@chrism> =\
12:12 <@chrism> if you take the non toll roads it takes me like 45 mins to an hour to get to work. toll roads take about 25 mins
12:12 <@chrism> =\
12:12 <scofflaw> yea i'm real happy about my commute
12:12 <scofflaw> i think it's like 15 mins door to door on a good day
12:12 <@chrism> I'd love to be able to go back to the El again
12:12 <@scrim> me too, I get on the orange line like the communist hippy i am
12:12 <@scrim> runs me almost door to door :)
12:13 <@chrism> nice
12:15 <Volatile> heh
12:15 <Volatile> i didn't ride the el all that much
12:15 <Volatile> sometimes took it to aikido
12:15 <Volatile> but i hate sittin' in one place for 45minutes
12:15 <Volatile> (or standing)
12:15 <SIDWORK> I am thinking about moving back to the city
12:16 <scofflaw> SIDWORK do it
12:17 <SIDWORK> maybe buying a loft on the northside
12:17 <SIDWORK> starting a photography business
12:17 <SIDWORK> who knows.
12:18 <scofflaw> i think i have 1 more year before i buy
12:18 <scofflaw> i dunno, i guess we'll see how the market does, and how high rates go
12:22 <Volatile> just buy 5000 shares of AAPL, wait 2 years
12:22 <Volatile> sell the shares, buy a mansion.
12:25 <Volatile> course.. if you can afford 5000 shares of AAPL, you can already buy a mansion.
12:25 <Volatile> buy 50 contracts of AAPL ;P
12:27 <Volatile> 60 cents for a jul16 450 call
12:27 <Volatile> ;P
12:27 <Volatile> when AAPL hits $9000 on JUL16, some people are gunna be mad rich
12:28 <Volatile> damn.. storage tech and construction materials are doing awesome today
12:37 <sampson> http://www.vancethompsonvision.com/sioux-falls/lasik-procedures/custom-lasik.htm goin with this procedure
12:37 <sampson> it's supposed to improve my night vision and possibility of those evil halos and shit are almost nil
12:37 <SIDWORK> My wife had lasik and she loved the results.
12:37 <sampson> yeah i'm hoping it owns bones
12:38 <Volatile> werd
12:39 <Volatile> my eye apt is coming up
12:39 <Volatile> imma ask muh doc about it
12:40 <sampson> it's not cheap :(
12:40 <sampson> $5700 for this procedure but it covers a free followup to correct if there's a problem
12:40 <Volatile> wow
12:40 <sampson> and 2 years of exams
12:40 <Volatile> that is pricey
12:40 <Volatile> oh yah
12:40 <Volatile> that's the good kind
12:40 <Volatile> computer measures your eyes
12:40 <Volatile> stores on a disk
12:41 <Volatile> so they can always bring your vision back at follow-up
12:41 <sampson> mmmhmmm
12:41 <sampson> and it should improve my night blindness
12:41 <Volatile> werd
12:41 <Volatile> i dont have any of those kinds of problems, just general far-sightedness.
12:41 <sampson> they said that i have a thicker than average cornea so if repeats are necessary i can do it like 5 times
12:42 <sampson> i'm near-sighted
12:42 <Volatile> wait.. maybe im near-sighted.. i can't see stuff at distance
12:42 <sampson> near
12:42 <Volatile> i thought it was opposite
12:42 <Volatile> ah
12:42 <Volatile> ok
12:42 <sampson> what's your prescription?
12:42 <Volatile> ? i dunno.. it lets me see shit that's at a distance
12:42 <sampson> usually it's a number like -3
12:43 <Volatile> *shrug*
12:43 <Volatile> they gamme the paper, i never bothered to look
12:43 <Volatile> i just go in and buy contacts occasionally
12:43 <Volatile> and every 6 months they refuse to sell me more, until i do another vision test
12:43 <Volatile> hah
12:44 <sampson> should say on your contact box
12:46 <scofflaw> mine sux
12:46 <scofflaw> like -5 and -5.25
12:46 <scofflaw> something like that
12:46 <scofflaw> and astigmatism in 1 eye
12:46 <scofflaw> so thats some other number i forget
12:47 <scofflaw> SIDWORK wtf did you marry btw?
12:47 <scofflaw> and do you still smoke cigs
12:47 <SIDWORK> I dont smoke.. never did.
12:47 <SIDWORK> got married back in 2000
12:51 <scofflaw> ok
12:51 <scofflaw> so you must not be the sid i think you are
12:53 <SIDWORK> Or am I?
12:53 <SIDWORK> :)
12:53 <SIDWORK> I hung out with Salro and RogerB
12:54 <SIDWORK> Yeza
12:54 <SIDWORK> all the old skool guys from 2621
13:31 <tronyx> HI
13:31 <sampson> o man
13:31 <sampson> that poop
13:31 <sampson> superb
13:31 <sampson> tronyx: im gettin lasik u jelly?
13:31 <tronyx> very nice my fair sampson
13:31 <tronyx> no that scares me
13:31 <sampson> y
13:31 <tronyx> i don't like the idea of some doctor hacking my eye into a pussy flap for a few days
13:31 <tronyx> eye labia? no thanks
13:32 <tronyx> i don't do eye things
13:32 <sampson> ya but then you see clear
13:32 <sampson> and no more fucking glasses
13:32 <tronyx> i have an eye exam on sunday and I am dreading it -.-
13:32 <sampson> yeah my eyeballs all dilated atm
13:32 <sampson> im in a dark room with the laptop like 8' away
13:32 <tronyx> ah shit i forgot about that
13:32 <@chrism> oh shit did you get it done?
13:32 <tronyx> that's gonna be the worst
13:32 <sampson> no not yet
13:32 <sampson> just testing
13:32 <tronyx> and then they'll shoot that puff of air in my eye
13:32 <sampson> i'm a prime candidate
13:33 <tronyx> WHY DO THEY DO THAT THING
13:33 <sampson> glaucoma test
13:33 <sampson> better than the lasik test
13:33 <sampson> they gotta numb your eyeballz
13:33 <tronyx> what do they do
13:33 <tronyx> oh what
13:33 <sampson> then they put uber dilation shit in there
13:33 <sampson> they said it lasts 36 hours
13:33 <sampson> but it's not over yt
13:33 <sampson> they take this tool and touch it to your eyeball to measure the depth of your cornea
13:33 <sampson> THEN they do a fuckton of eyeball puffs
13:34 <sampson> then they have to do a tear test where they use these drops to dry your eyes out
13:34 <sampson> and attach these strips of papers inside your eyelids which touch your eyes and make you cry
13:34 <sampson> and they have to stay in for 5 minutes
13:35 <tronyx> sounds like torture
13:35 <tronyx> i don't hate glasses that much
13:35 <sampson> i fucking despise them
13:36 <sampson> i used to love 'em but i hate the cleaning and i hate the fogging and i hate that i can't lay down and see shit and i hate contacts with a fucking passion
13:37 <tronyx> now you have me wondering if i should just get a vision test
13:37 <tronyx> and not a uhhhh
13:37 <tronyx> eye probe
13:37 <@chrism> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/cultureshock/flashpoints/theater/images/clockwork_big.jpg
13:37 <@chrism> lol
13:37 <tronyx> do not want
13:37 <tronyx> shit makes me cringe just thinking about it
13:37 <scofflaw> shit makes me cringe too
13:37 <scofflaw> but in a good way
13:37 <tronyx> but you did make me realize i need to reschedule my eye appointment
13:38 <tronyx> boners?
13:38 <sampson> y
13:44 <tronyx> anyone need anything from the internet while i'm online?
13:44 <tronyx> recipes, how-tos, etc.?
13:45 <sampson> some porn would be nice
13:45 <scofflaw> lyrics
13:46 <tronyx> ok
13:46 <tronyx> what songs scofflaw?
13:46 <tronyx> i have some puff daddy and master p on my hard drive
13:46 <tronyx> but if you want something else i can try
13:47 <scofflaw> i only listen to birdman
13:47 <tronyx> ok i will pirate the lyrics
13:47 <sampson> thief
13:47 <sampson> do you have tronyx does dallas.asf
13:52 <@chrism> NO LIMIT SOLJUS
13:53 <@chrism> WE DON'T DIE
13:53 <@chrism> WE KEEP ROLLIN NA NA NAAA NAAA NAAAA
13:53 <scofflaw> make em say UHHH
13:53 <scofflaw> UHHH
13:53 <scofflaw> na na na na
13:53 <scofflaw> hahah
13:53 <@chrism> def. just queued up ghetto D
13:53 <@chrism> lol
14:06 <scofflaw> yo
14:07 <scofflaw> keep it crunk guys
14:07 <phobosd> fuck you
14:07 <phobosd> pussy
14:07 <phobosd> i'm leaving for switzerland in 3 hours
14:07 <phobosd> sorry if i'm being a bit abrasive
14:07 <@chrism> don't choke on the chocolate
14:07 <phobosd> i need to get into the european mindset
14:07 <@chrism> dick
14:07 <phobosd> they sell chocolate dicks there?!
14:07 <phobosd> SO FULL OF WIN QQ
14:07 <@chrism> in abundance
14:08 <@chrism> Toblerone means "choco-cock" in swiss
14:11 <phobosd> i'll be sure to use that
14:11 <Volatile> damn, pho. you travel a lot.
14:11 <Volatile> work or pleasure this time?
14:11 <Volatile> (or both)?
14:11 <@chrism> actually is swiss even a language?
14:12 <@chrism> I think they greeted me in french or something when i was there
14:12 <scofflaw> he's meeting Julian Assange
14:12 <@chrism> oh weird they have 4 national languages, lol
14:12 <@chrism> german French Italian and ... Rumantsch?
14:12 <@scrim> as far as I know, there is no swiss, they split up between french german and italian
14:12 <@scrim> oh
14:12 <@scrim> didn't know about that 4th one
14:12 <@chrism> it's like 1% of the language i guess
14:13 <@chrism> http://official-swiss-national-languages.all-about-switzerland.info/index.html
14:14 <@scrim> oh, only 35k ppl speak it
14:14 <@scrim> i don't feel bad for not having heard of it then
14:14 <@scrim> ahah
14:15 <kawaiiblu> Volatile: he'll say it work but it's really pleasure
14:16 <Volatile> must be rough
14:16 <Volatile> ;P
14:16 <@chrism> A BITTER TASTE ENTERS THE CHANNEL
14:16 <@chrism> =P
14:16 <@chrism> jk <3
14:17 <Volatile> haha
14:18 <scofflaw> kawaiiblu throw a party
14:18 <scofflaw> in phobosd's apt
14:22 <sampson> a pee on phobosd's bed party
14:22 <sampson> i'd come
14:22 <scofflaw> circle jerk on his bed
14:22 <scofflaw> no, his pillow
14:22 <sampson> im game
14:22 <@chrism> I thought that was just known as "Tuesdays"
14:22 <scofflaw> i been missing out then
14:30 <kawaiiblu> haha
14:35 <scofflaw> kawaiiblu
14:36 <scofflaw> if an ex gf hits you up
14:36 <scofflaw> what does it mean
14:36 <@chrism> she's had a boyfriend or two between you and her that's treated her like complete shit and she wants someone to go off to it about and/or hump
14:36 <@chrism> but then again, I am not female, so really I have no fucking idea
14:36 <@chrism> LOL GIRLS ARE WEIRD LOL
14:37 <scofflaw> oh wait
14:37 <scofflaw> i should add
14:37 <scofflaw> she's married
14:37 <phobosd> http://i.imgur.com/dBXiO.gif
14:40 <@chrism> phobosd: lOL
14:40 <@chrism> totally gonna try that with scarlett when I get home
14:40 <@chrism> BOUNCE!
14:40 <@chrism> (no i'm not)
14:41 <sampson> TIL My girlfriend could put her mouth on my junk. DICK = BLOWN (self.circlejerk)
14:41 <sampson> lol
14:43 <scofflaw> my gf wants me to beat her up
14:43 <scofflaw> odd
14:46 <Volatile> SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Oracle Corp. made waves Wednesday with a sharply
14:46 <Volatile> worded announcement that it will cease all efforts to develop technology around
14:46 <Volatile> Intel Corp.'s Itanium chip -- a move that apparently took Intel by surprise,
14:46 <Volatile> while angering Intel partner Hewlett-Packard Co.
14:46 <Volatile> Intel partner H-P calls Oracle's announcement a 'shameless gambit'
14:46 <Volatile> hahaha
14:46 <sampson> isn't intel killing off itanium anywho
14:46 <Volatile> good ol' H-P, the stock that went to $1
14:46 <@chrism> itanium is still around?
14:47 <Volatile> apparently Intel thinks it is
14:47 <sampson> i have a kitty on my chest :3
14:47 <Volatile> Oracle is talking a lot today, cuz they report earnings at 5pm EDT
14:47 <@chrism> oooh that explains it
14:47 <Volatile> ive had ORCL for quite some time. been trading sideways. if they do well, it'll spark it.
14:47 <Volatile> otherwise, imma lose some cash :)
14:48 <SQL> none of the ERP products have support for Itaninium
14:48 <SQL> haters
14:48 <Volatile> today is so upbeat so far, if they do well, i bet it gives a good extra 5%
14:48 <Volatile> last earnings they got me 10%
14:48 <Volatile> heh
14:49 <scofflaw> 8.5
14:49 <scofflaw> taxes
14:49 <scofflaw> :p
14:49 <scofflaw> or did obama make it even higher than 15% these days?
14:49 <Volatile> i havent cashed it in
14:49 <Volatile> so, no taxes.
14:49 <Volatile> ;P
14:49 <Volatile> all paper, son
14:50 <Volatile> scoff, it's less than taxed income
14:50 <Volatile> that's all that matters to me.
14:50 <scofflaw> i thought he was changing it up, and it was gonna be 30%
14:50 <Volatile> *lawl*
14:50 <Volatile> are you srs?
14:50 <Volatile> or trolling
14:50 <scofflaw> i'm serious
14:50 <scofflaw> maybe 30 is high
14:51 <scofflaw> but i thought i remember reading talk about raising it
14:51 <Volatile> uh
14:51 <Volatile> dude
14:51 <Volatile> that will *never* happen
14:51 <Volatile> i mean, if it did, geezuz christ.
14:51 <Volatile> end of the world.
14:51 <Volatile> haha
14:51 <scofflaw> k
14:51 <scofflaw> well
14:51 <scofflaw> he did propose raising it to 28%
14:51 <Volatile> yeah, he said all kinds of shit
14:51 <Volatile> how much as he done?
14:52 <Volatile> 1%?
14:52 <scofflaw> my point is that is why i thought maybe it was higher
14:52 <scofflaw> i dont give a shit wtf else he's done
14:52 <scofflaw> ain't my president
14:52 <Volatile> heh
14:52 <Volatile> haha
14:52 <Volatile> you voted for palin
14:52 <Volatile> (or didnt vote)
14:52 <Volatile> ?
14:52 <scofflaw> did not vote
14:52 <Volatile> ah
14:53 <Volatile> you're such an american!
14:53 <Volatile> heh
14:53 <scofflaw> yea
14:53 <scofflaw> so he did propose it
14:53 <scofflaw> and i wouldn't say never, because the rates were that high during Reagan
14:53 <scofflaw> never say never bro, didn't you learn from James
14:54 <Volatile> well, i guess what i was thinking, was that obama has gone super centric, slightly-right, on business stuff recently
14:54 <scofflaw> thats not what you said however
14:54 <Volatile> does not matter.
14:54 <scofflaw> k
14:54 <Volatile> i have now explained myself
14:54 <Volatile> ;P
14:55 <Volatile> oh
14:55 <Volatile> i guess i paid 0% last year
14:55 <Volatile> 2008-2010 had 0%
14:56 <Volatile> i probably should look at the shit my CPA gives to me
14:56 <Volatile> heh
14:57 <Volatile> oh nice
14:58 <Volatile> washed any taxable
15:02 <SQL> break even accounting ++
15:03 <Volatile> taxing of that stuff is so complicated
15:03 <SQL> thats what CPAs are for
15:03 <Volatile> yeah. i cant envy him having to type out all the shit
15:03 <Volatile> there was like 3 pages of gains and losses
15:03 <Volatile> haha
15:04 <Volatile> though, i bet there's programs for CPAs that auto-enter lotsa data
15:05 <Volatile> and etrade did provide a CSV file
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15:57 <tronyx> man
16:22 <Volatile> woman
16:23 <Volatile> scofflaw: http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1300995263340.jpg
16:23 <Volatile> TAX MASTER
16:23 <@chrism> sfw?
16:23 <Volatile> yah
16:23 <@chrism> hahaha
16:23 <@chrism> wtf
16:23 <scofflaw> denied by fw
16:24 <scofflaw> looks funny
16:24 <@chrism> dude it's the funniest shit ever
16:24 <@chrism> it's just so sad you can't see it
16:24 <Volatile> hehe
16:24 <scofflaw> i saw it
16:24 <@chrism> like i actually crapped myself a bit
16:24 <@chrism> oh
16:24 <@chrism> =(
16:24 <@chrism> NO FUCKING FUN
16:24 <scofflaw> i just have to use firefox from a dev machine
16:25 <scofflaw> but a pita sometimes
16:25 <scofflaw> because i dont think about it, go to a link, and now my boss is probably wondering why i keep trying to go to 4chan
16:25 <Volatile> ORCL *crushes*
16:25 <@chrism> ya know, the more I use textmate for code, the more I like it
16:25 <Volatile> ;P
16:25 <Volatile> textmate?
16:25 <Volatile> nh.
16:25 <@chrism> nh?
16:26 <@chrism> WHAT IS THIS SHORTHAND OF YOURS
16:26 <Volatile> never heard.
16:26 <@chrism> YOU DO NOT GET TO MAKE THIS UP AS YOU GO ALONG
16:26 <scofflaw> nice hand
16:26 <scofflaw> nh = nice hand
16:26 <@chrism> lol
16:26 <Volatile> ah
16:26 <Volatile> it's an IDE
16:26 <scofflaw> for like, poker players and stuff
16:26 <@chrism> yeah something the devs here use internally, we bought a site license so it's like "here have this"
16:26 <Volatile> it isn't free?
16:26 <scofflaw> give me serial
16:26 <Volatile> wowz.
16:26 <scofflaw> :\
16:26 <@chrism> it feels like it should be free at times
16:26 <@chrism> lol
16:26 <scofflaw> textwrangler!
16:26 <@chrism> but it has perltidy built in
16:27 <@chrism> which is A++++++ for schmucks like me
16:27 <scofflaw> so does vim
16:27 <@chrism> vim kinda sucks for big stuff
16:27 <scofflaw> well, not necessarily true
16:27 <scofflaw> but yhou can def get a plugin!
16:27 <@chrism> yeah i've got it enabled on my box here
16:27 <Volatile> eh
16:27 <@chrism> but you have to do some ghetto shit like highlight via keystrokes and then there's some funky combo to get it to run
16:27 <Volatile> i use vim for everything
16:28 <scofflaw> linus made linux with microemacs
16:28 <@chrism> Hey, we're not all fucking code goddamned ninjas
16:28 <Volatile> i can move around in vim a lot faster than anything else
16:28 <@chrism> lol
16:28 <Volatile> ..but it doesn't have the cool stuff IDEs have
16:28 <Volatile> like showing you function arguments and shit
16:28 <@chrism> there's things I like about it like basic normal copy/paste
16:28 <@chrism> aah this isn't that fancy
16:28 <Volatile> ohz
16:28 <scofflaw> Volatile with plugins it will
16:28 <Volatile> it's faster in vim, if you're familiar with teh cmds
16:28 <scofflaw> i was putzing around with some vim python shit, and would tab complete shit
16:29 <Volatile> dont hafta take your hand off peni..keyboard... to use mouse
16:29 <Volatile> scoff, yah?
16:29 <Volatile> i may look into that at some point
16:29 <Volatile> i love visual studi
16:29 <Volatile> studio
16:29 <Volatile> minus its terribad compiler setting stuff
16:29 <scofflaw> yea, there are a lot of cool plugins for vim
16:29 <scofflaw> bash
16:29 <scofflaw> perl
16:29 <scofflaw> python
16:30 <scofflaw> and so on
16:30 <scofflaw> but messing with .vimrc isn't something i consider fun
16:30 <scofflaw> :/
16:30 <Volatile> yah
16:30 <Volatile> ive been using the same vimrc for a long time
16:30 <Volatile> im quite happy with it
16:30 <scofflaw> i saw it, it sux
16:30 <Volatile> heh
16:30 <Volatile> negative.
16:30 <scofflaw> srs
16:30 <Volatile> man.. ORCL was happy to get their shit out the door
16:30 <Volatile> did that shit over 30 minutes early
16:31 <Volatile> lawl
16:32 <Volatile> *fuck*
16:32 <Volatile> sold my ACN last week
16:32 <Volatile> up 8% now :)
16:32 <scofflaw> god
16:32 <scofflaw> you so dumb man
16:32 <scofflaw> how could you have not known
16:32 <Volatile> hah
16:32 <Volatile> i knew they were reporting earnings
16:33 <Volatile> ..but they're not exactly an exciting company
16:33 <Volatile> i didn't expect them to do so well
16:34 <Volatile> "Created by a closet UNIX geek who was lured to the Mac platform" <-- just noticed
16:34 <Volatile> a *real* geek would know not to refer to it as "UNIX".
16:34 <Volatile> SUP BRAH
16:34 <Volatile> I CHARRENGE YOU
16:35 <Volatile> scofflaw, every day at 3:30, i feel like it's 4:30, cuz of the market close
16:35 <Volatile> :(
16:37 <scofflaw> heh
16:37 <scofflaw> everyday at 3:30 people leave and go home
16:37 <scofflaw> well, not everyone
16:37 <scofflaw> i hate them
16:37 <scofflaw> cuz i'm here before those bastards too
16:37 <scofflaw> but it's like after 330 is when the real work starts
16:37 <scofflaw> sux
16:38 <@chrism> ;(
16:38 <scofflaw> 7-5pm
16:38 <scofflaw> :/
16:38 <@chrism> 4 on 3 off stylee?
16:38 <scofflaw> m-f
16:38 <scofflaw> :/
16:38 <@chrism> get overtime?
16:38 <@chrism> or blowjobs?
16:38 <scofflaw> nah
16:39 <scofflaw> people work long hours here
16:39 <scofflaw> bonuses and such
16:39 <scofflaw> and, changes can't happen before 330pm so if you have changes you're often staying late
16:39 <Volatile> (blowjobs)
16:39 <scofflaw> yes
16:39 <Volatile> (from scoff)
16:39 <@chrism> ya know, xcode is way more trouble than it's worth for simple perl stuff
16:39 <@chrism> hrm
16:40 <scofflaw> yea dude that's ridiculous
16:40 <scofflaw> use eclipse
16:40 <scofflaw> :X
16:42 <scofflaw> i actually need to dust off a perl book myself
16:42 <scofflaw> there are some scripts here i'd like to rewrite with python
16:42 <phobosd> why
16:43 <@chrism> 15:42 < scofflaw> i actually need to dust off a perl book myself
16:43 <@chrism> 15:42 < scofflaw> there are some scripts here i'd like to rewrite with python
16:43 <@chrism> what
16:43 <scofflaw> haha
16:43 <@chrism> IDGI
16:43 <scofflaw> well, i might need them to better understand the scripts i'd like to rewrite!
16:43 <scofflaw> why? because it's a good reason to write some python
16:43 <phobosd> not to me
16:43 <phobosd> if it aint broke
16:43 <phobosd> don't fix it
16:43 <phobosd> write something new
16:43 <phobosd> jeeez
16:43 <phobosd> logic 101 bro
16:43 <scofflaw> k
16:43 <phobosd> did they not teach that in korea-school
16:44 <phobosd> AWWWWWWWW YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
16:44 <phobosd> such an ill burn
16:44 <phobosd> scofflaw: jk bro, re-write your tits off
16:44 <Volatile> no. keep your tits.
16:44 <@chrism> pmuch, rewriting something in another language just to rewrite it in another langue, not the best use of time
16:44 <Volatile> i like tits.
16:44 <scofflaw> chrism thats not the only reason
16:44 <scofflaw> but i appreciate your concern
16:45 <phobosd> fuck you pussy
16:45 <scofflaw> and i too, like tits
16:45 <phobosd> NO FUCK YOU
16:45 <phobosd> :(
16:45 <@chrism> I thought you were on a plane to swissland
16:52 <phobosd> driver gets here in 15 minutes or so
16:52 <phobosd> :smug: driver :smug:
16:52 <Volatile> :mug:
16:52 <@chrism> :gums:
16:52 <@chrism> w-hat?
16:52 <Volatile> :ug:
16:52 <Volatile> :g:
16:52 <Volatile> ::
16:52 <Volatile> :
16:52 <Volatile> .
16:52 <Volatile>
16:53 <scofflaw> whoa
16:53 <@chrism> .
16:53 <@chrism> :
16:53 <scofflaw> i see a .nfo
16:53 <@chrism> ::
16:53 <@chrism> :g:
16:53 <@chrism> :ug:
16:53 <@chrism> FAIL SCOFF
16:53 <Volatile> YOU FUCKED IT UP SCOFF
16:53 <Volatile> heh
16:53 <scofflaw> fuck you
16:53 <Volatile> k.
16:53 <@chrism> SYNCHRONICITY WILL NOT BE HAD BECUASE SCOFF HAD TO GO AND FUCK IT UP
16:53 <scofflaw> yes
16:53 <Volatile> he's fucking with my OCD
16:53 <scofflaw> this is MY sandbox
17:12 <tronyx> hey phobosd
17:12 <tronyx> NICE BURN ABOUT KOREA SCHOOL
17:12 <tronyx> HAHAHAHHAHAA
17:12 <tronyx> who's korean?
17:12 * scofflaw is 1/2
17:12 <tronyx> cool
17:12 <scofflaw> but went to an American school while living in Korea
17:12 <tronyx> really?
17:12 <scofflaw> so i dont know anything about this korean school
17:12 <tronyx> how long have you lived in the U.S.?
17:13 <tronyx> or were you not born there
17:13 <tronyx> or am i an idiot
17:13 <scofflaw> i was born in korea
17:13 <scofflaw> lived there til i was 3 maybe
17:13 <scofflaw> came to the states til i was 6-7
17:13 <scofflaw> then back to korea until i was about 9
17:13 <scofflaw> here ever since
17:14 <scofflaw> that's my life story
17:14 <scofflaw> minus all the pimpping
17:14 <scofflaw> pimping
17:14 <scofflaw> smackin hoz
17:14 <scofflaw> stackin loot
17:14 <scofflaw> you know how we do
17:14 <tronyx> i know how it is
17:14 <tronyx> you koreans know when it's time to get kim jon ill
17:15 <tronyx> too soon?
17:15 <@chrism> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6fFKkmIrWM
17:15 <@chrism> hahaha
17:16 <scofflaw> no
17:16 <scofflaw> Kim John-Ill
17:17 <scofflaw> kim jong-il is my doppleganger btw
17:23 <scofflaw> i need to work on the hairdo some more tho
17:26 <scofflaw> http://glamour-news.blogspot.com/2011/03/only-in-holland.html
17:31 <sampson> wtf mbp
17:31 <sampson> my iphone is only drawing 500ma
17:31 <sampson> i thought it could do up to 1500ma
17:38 <SIDWORK> I saw a documentary on North Korea.. Holy Bat Shit those people are fucken crazy!@
17:39 <scofflaw> those people?
17:39 <scofflaw> which ones
17:39 <scofflaw> the oppressed? or oppressors
17:40 <SIDWORK> Both
17:40 <SIDWORK> The Oppressed are brain washed
17:41 <SIDWORK> the Oppressors have like totally changed the way North Koreans see the world. Books, Music, everything
17:41 <scofflaw> yea
17:41 <scofflaw> they're def crazy
17:45 <sampson> but not as crazy as scofflaw
17:45 <scofflaw> pmuch true
17:47 <scofflaw> i am crazy
17:47 <scofflaw> i learned it from watching you
17:48 <sampson> I LEARNED IT FROM YOU DAD
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18:00 <kt> DV
18:00 <dvitous> k8ee
18:02 <sampson> why don't you two get it over with and fuck each other
18:03 <kt> yuck
18:03 <dvitous> cuz believe it or not... kt has standards :P
18:03 <dvitous> or at least thats what she keeps tellin me
18:03 <kt> ahahahahahaha i'm not so sure about that but still no :P
19:03 <sampson> i can somewhat see again!
19:09 <dvitous> its overrated
19:19 <phobosd> bitches and hoes
19:28 <dvitous> skut
19:28 <dvitous> er
19:28 <dvitous> slut even
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