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#Chicago on Monday, March 28, 2011

(< sampson> 15" is really the largest i could ever go)

Links mentioned today:
http://pastebin.com/BayvYdcP
http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201113/6976/Oracle-attacked-MySQL-and-Sun-caught-in-the-crossfire
http://ca.kotaku.com
http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2011/Mar/313
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctrfFOdqzMk#t=0m7s
http://beernews.org/2011/03/anheuser-busch-to-buy-goose-island-for-38-8-million/
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=195039880520845
http://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/gct85/scouts_always_looking_to_get_a_better_view/
http://blog.ksplice.com/2010/08/strace-the-sysadmins-microscope/
http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/07/15/nytprof-v2-a-major-advance-in-perl-profilers/
http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/No-Letters-Allowed!.aspx
http://www.samueladams.com/promotions/LongShot2011/rules.aspx
http://i.imgur.com/xSczR.jpg
http://www.lollapalooza.com:80/'
http://storage/svn/mail
http://i.imgur.com/JQB7Z.jpg
http://www.honk.ie/
http://i.imgur.com/lywWU.jpg
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1270
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1125400
http://pastebin.com/X8znzPWH
http://pastebin.com/F7tVbw8q
http://pastie.org/private/oamgzwcqgabwcqbhuqcrha
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8vNzwxlohg0/TQk8nIaOLYI/AAAAAAAABPc/F9q0tbfJMdw/s640/Fire+Jose.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model%E2%80%93view%E2%80%93controller
http://autotest.kernel.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCTBHm29SrM
http://www.popjolly.com/woman-uses-sperm-from-oral-sex-to-impregnate-self-gets-child-support-2109
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/03/dragon-age-ii-review/
http://pastie.org/1728550
http://www.ljubljana-life.com/eat/restaurants_details/96-Hot_Horse
13:02
http://www.lollapalooza.com


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02:06 <beek> hello happy.
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02:41 <Mr_Roboto> b to the lah?
03:22 <VVelox_> black
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07:53 <Volatile> hio
08:10 <@scrim> morning
08:10 <Volatile> morn
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08:38 <tronyx> morning
08:41 <tronyx> http://pastebin.com/BayvYdcP
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09:16 <Volatile> dewp
09:16 <Volatile> !
09:17 <Volatile> lawl
09:17 <Volatile> poor mysql
09:17 <@scrim> eheh
09:18 <Volatile> wow
09:18 <Volatile> they have that oldschool BBS naked girl ascii
09:18 <Volatile> leet.
09:18 <Volatile> havent seen that shit since like '93
09:18 <Volatile> what's too bad is that these script kids that deface sites did this
09:18 <Volatile> ..instead of someone who could use it for something
09:18 <Volatile> :\
09:20 <tronyx> apparently they hit SUN too and stole some DB shit from them as well
09:21 <tronyx> http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201113/6976/Oracle-attacked-MySQL-and-Sun-caught-in-the-crossfire
09:26 <Volatile> geezuz
09:26 <Volatile> what a waste.
09:26 <Volatile> clueballs.
09:26 <Volatile> .br kids?
09:26 <Volatile> romania
09:26 <Volatile> lawl.
09:26 <Volatile> same difference
09:28 <Volatile> shoulda known by the ascii art
09:28 <Volatile> the .ro scene is still all about ascii/ansi art, like it's the 90s
09:31 <Volatile> HON upgraded to $74 (+15), and it's only up a lil over 1%
09:31 <Volatile> loo
09:40 <Volatile> wrong channel ;P
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09:50 <sampson> NICE
09:50 <sampson> http://ca.kotaku.com
09:50 <sampson> none of their gay ass new style sheet
09:51 <tronyx> loooooool http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2011/Mar/313
09:51 <sampson> seclists make me sperg
09:52 <sampson> funny shit but i hate the sec world of admins
09:52 <sampson> bunch of douches
09:52 <Volatile> pmuch
09:52 <Volatile> mcafee is part of tho
09:53 <Volatile> huge scam
09:53 <Volatile> you too can pay $60/year for no protection
09:53 <Volatile> McAffee: Catching viruses from 1990, since 1990
09:53 <Volatile> er
09:53 <Volatile> since 19956
09:53 <Volatile> sdlkfjhsdf
09:53 <Volatile> ;P
09:54 <Volatile> sam. good find on the CSS stuff
09:54 <Volatile> kotaku's weird scrolling sux
09:56 <sampson> fo sho
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10:35 <@chrism> mcafee is fucking win man
10:35 <@chrism> i love that shit
10:35 <@scrim> what?
10:35 <@chrism> i run it on all my servers
10:35 * scrim boggles
10:35 <@chrism> fuck yeah man
10:35 <@scrim> ahah
10:35 <@chrism> in fact i run two copies on my workstation
10:35 <@chrism> just to be EXTRA safe
10:35 <@scrim> yeah ok, that's what I thought :)
10:35 <@chrism> =)
10:39 <SidWork> morning peeps
10:39 <SidWork> picked up an 80 gig ssd drive yesterday
10:39 <SidWork> loaded windows 7 home pre on it and I must say.. its pretty freakin fast
10:41 <tronyx> nice nice
10:41 <sampson> scofflaw: there's a hack out to enable trim on 3rd party ssds
10:41 <sampson> i'm reinstalling osx on a 0d out drive RIGHT NOW
10:43 <sampson> i found scofflaw on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctrfFOdqzMk#t=0m7s (prolly nws)
10:50 <@chrism> oh no =(
10:51 <@chrism> tronyx: http://beernews.org/2011/03/anheuser-busch-to-buy-goose-island-for-38-8-million/
10:51 <@chrism> today is a sad day =(
10:51 <sampson> lol
10:51 <@scrim> yeah
10:52 <Randy> strange purchase
10:52 <tronyx> damn, greg is stepping down
10:52 <@chrism> nah they've been on a roll with that
10:52 <@chrism> AB can't do craft brew stuff, so they acquire smaller breweries that can
10:52 <@chrism> =(
10:52 <tronyx> i'd be very curious to know why he's stepping down from his position. doesn't say if he's going to stay with the company
10:53 <chrispi> speaking of small breweries, this is what i'm doing this weekend
10:53 <chrispi> http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=195039880520845
10:53 <@chrism> chrispi: nice
10:54 <chrispi> at $10, it's a steal
10:54 <sampson> GOD DAMNIT
10:54 <sampson> WHO THE FUCK RUNS A CURL AND MAKES IT OUTPUT TO THE ERROR LOG
10:54 <sampson> SERIOUSLY
10:54 <sampson> every fucking 2 seconds
10:54 <sampson> how the hell am i supposed to work on this
10:55 <tronyx> chmod 000 `which curl`
10:55 <@chrism> OH SHIT DROPPIN LINUX CODE
10:55 <@chrism> YOU BETTER CHECK THAT SHIT INTO GIT BEFORE IT GETS LOST
10:55 <@chrism> K
10:55 <sampson> no it's some script that purges the varnish cache
10:55 <tronyx> DON'T TOUCH MY INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY! YOU SHOULD GO FLIP BURGERS!
10:55 <tronyx> remember that dude sampson?
10:56 <sampson> yes
10:56 <sampson> that dude ruled
10:56 <tronyx> lol
10:56 <chrispi> lolwhat?
10:56 <tronyx> we were working on some guy's shit
10:56 <tronyx> and as a result, we renamed his .htaccess during troubleshooting
10:56 <tronyx> he was tinkering with the site WHILE we were fixing it and noticed that .htaccess was renamed
10:57 <chrispi> bwagaga
10:57 <tronyx> and updated the ticket and was like, "don't ever touch my intellectual property again! you cannot rename files and you should all go flip burgers for a living"
10:57 <sampson> WITHOUT YOUUUUUU THE HAND GROPES THE EAR HEARS THE PULSE BEATS LIFE GOES ON BUT I'M GONEEEE
10:57 <chrispi> hahaha
10:57 <sampson> yeah that guy ruled
10:57 <@chrism> Fuck::ThisClient::cancelled('fuckheadcustomer');
10:57 <@chrism> =P
10:57 * chrism goes back to work
10:57 <sampson> yeah he left pretty quickly after we pointed out it was .htaccess
10:57 <sampson> and our tests proved it
10:57 <@chrism> PROOFED
10:58 <tronyx> i liked when some dude called to yell at me becuase microsoft was having problems with their payment shit
10:58 <tronyx> and he's like, "well are you going to fucking call them and tell them!?!?!"
10:58 <tronyx> and i was like, "no"
10:58 <tronyx> he didn't like that
10:58 <@chrism> lol god bless hosting customers
10:58 <@chrism> =P
10:58 <chrispi> haha yeah
10:58 <@chrism> mrtyfrdm: BTW 'GRATS
10:59 <chrispi> chrism: don't lie, you miss it
10:59 <tronyx> i for one do not miss it at all
10:59 <mrtyfrdm> fuck you
10:59 <mrtyfrdm> jkjkjk
10:59 <mrtyfrdm> lol
10:59 <@chrism> hah I miss aspects of it, tbh
10:59 <@chrism> i do not miss angry pissed off fuckheads that pay 7.00/mo
11:00 <m1k[3y]--> DONT TOUCH MY .HTACCESS!!!!
11:00 <@chrism> "in the time it's taken to calm your hyper ass down, the company has lost money on my salary, a lot. Thanks"
11:00 <chrispi> i don't miss shared hosting
11:00 <chrispi> at all
11:00 <tuples> should have blocked apache from being able to read his .htaccess, if being is property and all
11:00 <@chrism> "Still arguing? I'm going to just go ahead and cancel your account as I don't believe we're a good fit"
11:00 <@chrism> lololo
11:00 <chrispi> haha
11:00 <m1k[3y]--> hahha
11:00 <@chrism> god I pulled that one a lot
11:01 <@chrism> only had to shitcan a small handfull of custies
11:01 <@chrism> most of the time they'd be like "Hrm, let's talk about this"
11:01 <@chrism> YES LETS
11:01 <mrtyfrdm> haha man
11:01 <mrtyfrdm> they didn't delete any of my stuff
11:01 <mrtyfrdm> login to snorlax
11:01 <mrtyfrdm> [SNORLAX]C:\home\eric>
11:01 <mrtyfrdm> lol
11:02 <tronyx> SECURITY RISK
11:02 <tronyx> insider threat!
11:02 <tronyx> etc
11:03 <sampson> we knew you would be back
11:03 <@chrism> NO ONE LEAVES THE HOP
11:03 <mrtyfrdm> apparently
11:03 <@chrism> YOU CAN CHECK IN, BUT YOU CAN NEVER CHECK OUT
11:03 <@chrism> cept for tronyx
11:04 <sampson> ya right he'll be back
11:04 <m1k[3y]--> going back to the hop mrtyfrdm?
11:04 <mrtyfrdm> already here
11:04 <m1k[3y]--> ah
11:04 <m1k[3y]--> consulting did not work out?
11:04 <tronyx> oh and when will i be back?
11:04 <@chrism> yay groovelectric
11:04 <@chrism> here's to hoping it's non-suck
11:04 <sampson> 2 years, 5 days, 18 hours and 45 minutes
11:05 <tronyx> that's when i will be back?
11:05 <tronyx> hmmmmmm
11:05 <sampson> yup
11:05 <mrtyfrdm> m1k[3y]--: that job was a piece of shit
11:05 <mrtyfrdm> and i hated it
11:05 <m1k[3y]--> aye
11:05 <@chrism> consulting is a shit game
11:05 <mrtyfrdm> everyday i woke up and told myself
11:05 <mrtyfrdm> god i hope that fuck head boss of mine fires me today
11:05 <mrtyfrdm> then I wouldn't do shit
11:05 <tronyx> and his boss didn't have sweet long hair that he could use as a blowjob steering wheel.
11:05 <@chrism> been there, done that, wouldn't touch it again
11:05 <mrtyfrdm> dude wouldn't fire me though cause he needed a guy that knew servers
11:05 <mrtyfrdm> lol tronyx
11:06 <chrispi> tronyx: so very, very true
11:07 <sampson> so what's his company going to dow ithout you
11:07 <tronyx> is phobosd at the office yet?
11:07 <@chrism> phobosd is in fucking swissland
11:07 <sampson> no he's in switzerland
11:07 <tronyx> ohhhhhhhhh damn
11:07 <sampson> why you wanna ask him about coming back?
11:07 <tronyx> for how long?
11:07 <@chrism> hahahah
11:07 <sampson> i think they fly back tomorrow
11:07 <@chrism> tronyx: your desk is waiting sir
11:07 <m1k[3y]--> tronyx: where did you go to from the hop?
11:08 <tronyx> i work for a security firm m1k[3y]--
11:08 <m1k[3y]--> aye
11:08 <@chrism> "firm"
11:08 <tronyx> idk chrism, i hear there's some real ticket ninjas around there these days, some might say even as fast as i was, if not faster
11:08 <tronyx> i don't think i am needed :(
11:08 <@chrism> woaaaaaah
11:08 <tronyx> but i am always a SHopper at heart
11:08 <@chrism> today, I listen to copious amounts of fatboy slim
11:08 <sampson> yeah def faster
11:09 <sampson> we got this guy from TS
11:09 <tronyx> BUT, those ticket folks lack the pinache and smart assery that i would bring to the plate
11:09 <@chrism> sean richards?
11:09 <@chrism> lolol
11:09 <sampson> he does like 100+ easy each shift and that's the second shift
11:09 <sampson> lol i'd quit so fast if we hired him
11:09 <tronyx> like the time we trolled sam into thinking i rage quit because of him
11:09 <tronyx> epic epic troll
11:09 <@chrism> he's back in texias somewhere
11:09 <sampson> meanest troll ever
11:09 <@chrism> er texas
11:09 <tronyx> <3
11:09 <@chrism> i think up in dallas?
11:09 <@chrism> so 100 tickets, are they quality, or are they quantity or... the rare bird, both?
11:10 <tronyx> chrism has used poaching reconaissance
11:10 <@chrism> loolo
11:10 <sampson> quality
11:11 <sampson> we got a team of peeps to do the quantity stuff
11:11 <@chrism> ron troll ENGAGED
11:11 * chrism points at mrtyfrdms FB post
11:11 <@chrism> lol
11:12 <sampson> OH FUCK
11:13 <tronyx> LOL best SingleHop memory was of sam walking back to the franklin office drunk as fuck, covering one eye with one hand, typing with the other to fix some dude's cluster
11:13 <@chrism> hahaha
11:13 <tronyx> sam looks over at me, "holy fuck, it worked. what's wrong broo broo? wanna drink?"
11:13 <@scrim> ahaha
11:13 <@chrism> fav. singlehop memory was when Igor, Andy, Luke and I all trolled the fuck out of mrtyfrdm
11:13 <@chrism> had him thinking he blew away the entire SH DNS config
11:13 <chrispi> chrism: PRO POST
11:13 <chrispi> PRO
11:13 <tronyx> o.o
11:13 <tronyx> awesome
11:14 <@chrism> hahah dude was flipping his shit
11:14 <@chrism> and i'm just like "Backups man, why don't you fucking back shit up???"
11:14 <chrispi> mrtyfrdm fav memory, boxing the fuck out of my ears for fucking with his desk
11:14 <@chrism> and he thinks i'm fucking w/ him so he goes to andy/igor/luke to confirm, and we'd already sorted out the plaan and they're like "YOU DID WHAT?"
11:14 <tronyx> i also liked farting next to mrtyfrdm all afternoon
11:14 <@chrism> shit was lulz
11:14 <tronyx> i'd go get lunch, come back and just loose at my desk
11:15 <@chrism> mrtyfrdm: GOOD TIMES HUH
11:17 <sampson> hey man i do my best work blitzed
11:18 <sampson> my fav memory of the office was trolling with tronyx and all the sales people giggling and then they'd try to join and we would be like bro you are like noob level if at best
11:18 <sampson> go drink some keystone light fratboy
11:22 <mrtyfrdm> YOURE ALL ASSHOLES
11:22 <SidWork> I really should stop allowing my wife to use my macbook
11:23 <SidWork> She has left her mark all over this thing..
11:23 <mrtyfrdm> chrispi: i still feel bad for that to this day
11:23 <SidWork> Smallville in the background.
11:23 <mrtyfrdm> and chrism i remember that I almost had a fucking heart attack
11:23 <SidWork> Power Yoga for my screen saver
11:25 <chrispi> mrtyfrdm: meh, i earned it :P
11:26 <mrtyfrdm> that you did
11:26 <chrispi> lol
11:33 <@chrism> my new fun trolling targest on reddit
11:33 <@chrism> people that proclaim their "vide/game/whatever backups are legit" and then complain when DRM fucks 'em
11:33 <@chrism> RAWR FIGHT DRM THIS IS WHY I PIRATE
11:34 <@chrism> no it's not, you pirate because the shit is fucking free
11:34 <mrtyfrdm> http://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/gct85/scouts_always_looking_to_get_a_better_view/
11:34 <mrtyfrdm> upboats
11:34 <@chrism> g'dmanit
11:34 <@chrism> i just upvoted a cat pic
11:34 <@chrism> i feel dirty now
11:34 <mrtyfrdm> hahaha
11:35 <mrtyfrdm> it's in r/aww so it's ok
11:35 <mrtyfrdm> and my cat fucking rules admit it
11:35 <@chrism> but does he have a tie?
11:35 <sampson> my cat has a tie
11:35 <mrtyfrdm> she is not business cat
11:35 <sampson> man the fb poll shit is really annoying
11:35 <@scrim> yes
11:35 <mrtyfrdm> i like it
11:35 <mrtyfrdm> because i can add my own things to them
11:36 <sampson> it floods the damn news feed
11:36 <sampson> and there's no way to filter them out
11:36 <@scrim> and you can't click X and block all polls
11:36 <mrtyfrdm> it'll happen eventually
11:36 <mrtyfrdm> that option
11:36 <sampson> gonna murder cat
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11:40 <tronyx> SECKS
11:54 <@chrism> I love writing code, verifying it works, saving
11:54 <@chrism> and then coming back 2 days later and now it doesn't work
11:55 <@chrism> damnit
11:58 <@chrism> oh herpaderp, saved while debugging
12:04 <sampson> gg
12:07 <Volatile> hio
12:07 <Volatile> chrism, code rot, brah
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12:07 <@chrism> lololo
12:07 <@chrism> 48 hour code rot
12:07 <Volatile> heh
12:07 <sampson> god DAMNIT
12:07 <sampson> apache
12:08 <sampson> why you going nuts
12:08 * chrism waits for cPanel to be blamed
12:08 <sampson> no cpanel on box
12:08 <Volatile> i wrote a long program when high.. as far as i was concerned.. it worked well. after i figured it was working, went to bed. when woke up, it wouldn't compile, and didn't do anything i intended it to do
12:08 <Volatile> fml.
12:08 * chrism waits for cPanel to be blamed for not being on that box
12:08 <@chrism> =P
12:08 <@chrism> Volatile: hahaha
12:09 <sampson> it makes no fucking sense
12:09 <sampson> like apache ends up hanging
12:09 <@chrism> Volatile: You were programming a toaster
12:09 <sampson> and if i try to strace any process
12:09 <sampson> strace hangs
12:09 <sampson> i can't even quit strace
12:09 <@chrism> ya know I've seen that before
12:09 <@chrism> and ya gotta kill -9 strace
12:09 <@chrism> and i dunno what causes it exactly
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12:11 <Volatile> maybe something else was ptrace()ing it ahead of you?
12:11 <sampson> impossible
12:11 <sampson> the peeps are stupid
12:11 <Volatile> oh.. it locked up after some output?
12:11 <sampson> [root@profile1 ~]# strace -p 4711
12:11 <sampson> Process 4711 attached - interrupt to quit
12:11 <sampson> Killed
12:11 <sampson> no output at all
12:11 <sampson> i had to kill -9 it
12:11 <@chrism> oh
12:11 <tronyx> they're hacked
12:11 <@chrism> and you're attaching to pache/
12:11 <@chrism> er apache?
12:11 <tronyx> and someone backdoored their apache
12:11 <@chrism> what worker sam?
12:11 <sampson> yes
12:12 <Volatile> can only one ptrace() at a time
12:12 <Volatile> everything else blocks.
12:12 <beek> mornin honkys
12:12 <Volatile> hio
12:12 <@chrism> sampson: strace -fF -vvt -p <apache pid>
12:12 <@chrism> your'e hitting the main process which does fuck all, the child processes are the one handling shizzle
12:12 <Volatile> strace fail.
12:13 <mrtyfrdm> duh sampson
12:13 <@chrism> try a bigger snaplenght too if that doesn't find what you want
12:13 <@chrism> -s 4096 (expect a ton of shit)
12:13 <@chrism> but filter with -e
12:13 <@chrism> side note, -e is your god with strace
12:13 <@chrism> ksplice has a really good post about that fwiw
12:13 <sampson> how i use -e never needed it
12:14 <@chrism> oh youv'e needed it
12:14 <@chrism> you just didn't know you needed it
12:14 <@chrism> =P
12:14 <@chrism> http://blog.ksplice.com/2010/08/strace-the-sysadmins-microscope/
12:14 <@chrism> like for example, say you want to know what file is getting opened, and you have to strace something ungodly like apache or cpsrvd or something
12:14 <@chrism> there's a TON of noise you'll see
12:14 <@chrism> and it looks impressive to people seeing you scan a shitton of stuff
12:15 <@chrism> but it's a pita
12:15 <@chrism> this ain't the matrix brah
12:15 <@chrism> so like -e trace=file
12:15 <@chrism> and it'll just show the fileops
12:15 <@chrism> or more importantly -e trace=open
12:15 <@chrism> and you see *just* the open() calls
12:16 <@chrism> anyway, read that blogpost, it's fairly awesome
12:17 <@chrism> tbh if I were running an admin dept again, I'd make that post mandatory fucking reading
12:17 <Volatile> loo
12:17 <Volatile> srs. i've never used -e
12:18 <Volatile> learn something new errday
12:18 <@chrism> yeah but you're a C coder, you're used to doing shit the hard way
12:18 <@chrism> =P
12:18 * chrism ducks
12:18 <Volatile> loo
12:18 <Volatile> C is easier for me :\
12:18 <@chrism> i only learned about -e like a few months ago
12:18 <@chrism> and was like "WOAAAAAAAHHHHHHH"
12:18 <Volatile> C is easier than perl and shit
12:18 <Volatile> imo.
12:18 <@chrism> it's no ruby though
12:18 <sampson> ya that's pretty boss
12:18 <sampson> already found 1 bug
12:19 <sampson> er misconfiguration
12:19 <Volatile> especially typeless languages... argh
12:19 <Volatile> do want strongly typed languages!
12:19 <@chrism> yeah my first year here was spent reversing the product before I had source access, so I spent fucking HOURS reading through strace dumps
12:19 <@chrism> dear god
12:19 <@chrism> lol
12:19 <Volatile> hah
12:19 <@chrism> i even had a halfassed strace dump parser written
12:19 <Volatile> strace is a mess.
12:19 <@chrism> =\
12:19 <@chrism> then I found -e
12:19 <@chrism> lol
12:19 <Volatile> to read
12:20 <Volatile> especially when shit gets cut off
12:20 <@chrism> oh yeah
12:20 <Volatile> and you're like "FUCK.. NEED TO INCREASE OUTPUT"
12:20 <@chrism> hahaha
12:20 <@chrism> yeah
12:20 <@chrism> and then you open it up
12:20 <@chrism> and FLOOOOOOOD
12:20 <@chrism> -s 4096 == cry
12:20 <Volatile> gcc is way bettar
12:20 <Volatile> if debugging symbols are included
12:20 <@chrism> *if*
12:20 <Volatile> heh
12:20 <Volatile> er..
12:20 <Volatile> i meant gdb
12:20 <Volatile> lawl
12:20 <Volatile> gcc
12:20 <@chrism> yeah
12:20 <@chrism> i figured
12:20 <Volatile> valgrind = win
12:21 <Volatile> if you aren't using that yet
12:21 <Volatile> do start.
12:21 <@chrism> I've heard of that
12:21 <@chrism> hrm
12:21 * chrism looks
12:21 <Volatile> i won't release anything production without valgrind
12:21 <Volatile> daemons and shit i mean
12:21 <Volatile> ..even some single-instance programs
12:22 <Volatile> check this out
12:23 <Volatile> just copied in some log parser stuff
12:23 <Volatile> vol@code:~$ valgrind --leak-check=full --show-reachable=yes ./logparse
12:23 <Volatile> ==3153== HEAP SUMMARY:
12:23 <Volatile> ==3153== in use at exit: 0 bytes in 0 blocks
12:23 <Volatile> ==3153== total heap usage: 13 allocs, 13 frees, 36,773 bytes allocated
12:23 <Volatile> ==3153==
12:23 <Volatile> ==3153== All heap blocks were freed -- no leaks are possible
12:23 <Volatile> /* removed some cleanup code */
12:23 <Volatile> vol@code:~$ valgrind --leak-check=full --show-reachable=yes ./logparse
12:23 <Volatile> ==3162==
12:23 <Volatile> ==3162== HEAP SUMMARY:
12:23 <Volatile> ==3162== in use at exit: 408 bytes in 1 blocks
12:23 <Volatile> ==3162== total heap usage: 13 allocs, 12 frees, 36,773 bytes allocated
12:23 <Volatile> ==3162==
12:23 <Volatile> ==3162== 408 bytes in 1 blocks are still reachable in loss record 1 of 1
12:23 <Volatile> ==3162== at 0x4C2815C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:236)
12:23 <Volatile> ==3162== by 0x400DC8: main (logparse.c:139)
12:23 <Volatile> ==3162==
12:23 <Volatile> ==3162== LEAK SUMMARY:
12:23 <Volatile> ==3162== definitely lost: 0 bytes in 0 blocks
12:23 <Volatile> ==3162== indirectly lost: 0 bytes in 0 blocks
12:23 <Volatile> ==3162== possibly lost: 0 bytes in 0 blocks
12:23 <Volatile> ==3162== still reachable: 408 bytes in 1 blocks
12:24 <Volatile> [mzima] *** Message to #chicago throttled due to flooding
12:24 <Volatile> heh
12:25 <Volatile> chrism, valgrind is the memory profiler/debugger used by KDE on their production releases
12:27 <Volatile> gprof is way bettar for profiling tho
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12:30 <@chrism> ooooh
12:30 <@chrism> nice
12:30 <@chrism> that's really slick actually
12:30 <@chrism> for perl stuff I've been using the shit out of Devel::NYTProf
12:30 <@chrism> not as granular as that
12:32 <@chrism> hrm thought I had some old debugging examples loaded up somewhere, guess not
12:33 <@chrism> http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/07/15/nytprof-v2-a-major-advance-in-perl-profilers/
12:33 <@chrism> it's fairly awesome at what it does
12:34 <@chrism> really damned granular insofar as code... makes it super easy to peg out which routines or lines are the cpu/mem/disk hogs and stuff
12:35 <sampson> HFUDafdgiaioehrfioSHF
12:35 <sampson> I HATE APACHE
12:35 <@chrism> what is ur boggle sir
12:35 <Volatile> use IIS
12:35 <Volatile> it's way better.
12:35 <Volatile> the internet is just a fad anyway
12:36 <sampson> i don't fucking KNOW
12:36 <sampson> i can't find it
12:37 <sampson> i think it has to do with max requests per child
12:37 <Volatile> sam
12:38 <Volatile> tell level 3 the problem you're trying to solve, not the way you're trying to solve it.
12:38 <Volatile> pro-tip, brah
12:41 <sampson> honestly, i don't know the problem
12:41 <sampson> it has to do with gluster
12:41 <Volatile> ?
12:41 <sampson> but i can't find any errors
12:41 <Volatile> then why are you trying to strace
12:41 <Volatile> if there isnt a problem
12:42 <Volatile> http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/No-Letters-Allowed!.aspx
12:42 <Volatile> Excersize: Re-write this function!
12:43 <@chrism> yeah what's the problem actually?
12:43 <@chrism> hehe
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12:56 <@chrism> http://www.samueladams.com/promotions/LongShot2011/rules.aspx
12:56 <@chrism> entering that foh sho
12:57 <@chrism> I'll actually get cracking on a grain bill tonight
12:57 <@chrism> yay!
12:57 <Volatile> werd
12:57 <Volatile> man.. my local grocery store picked up these lil packets of lump and claw crabmeat
12:57 <Volatile> they are *win*
12:57 <@chrism> krab meat
12:57 <@chrism> lolololo
12:57 <Volatile> nah
12:57 <Volatile> it's real crab
12:58 <Volatile> blue swimmer crab
12:58 <@chrism> nive
12:58 <Volatile> nive?
12:58 <@chrism> nice
12:58 <Volatile> ah
12:58 <Volatile> heh
12:58 <@chrism> eating lunch
12:58 <Volatile> it's good right out of the package
12:58 <Volatile> it's crab meat and a lil salt to preserve
12:58 <Volatile> hasta be refrig'd
13:00 <@chrism> http://i.imgur.com/xSczR.jpg
13:00 <Volatile> hahaha
13:00 <Volatile> repoasting NAO
13:00 <@chrism> lol
13:02 <sampson> ...
13:02 <sampson> ./check_http -H www.lollapalooza.com -w 5 -c 10 -s "The 2011 Secret Sale is happening soon. Keep an eye right here for a big button and your chance to go to Lolla for $60\!"
13:02 <Volatile> no credit given :\
13:02 <sampson> HTTP CRITICAL: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - string 'The 2011 Secret Sale is ha...' not found on 'http://www.lollapalooza.com:80/' - 11939 bytes in 0.107 second response time |time=0.107480s;5.000000;10.000000;0.000000 size=11939B;;;0
13:02 <Mr_Roboto> morn
13:02 <sampson> apace made me do it
13:02 <Volatile> lawl?
13:02 <Volatile> you have a program dedicated to checking the contents of a webpage?
13:02 <sampson> nagios check on lolla to see when $60 tickets go on sale
13:02 <Volatile> it's called wget | grep, brah
13:02 <Mr_Roboto> sampson:is that why I find you alone in a corner curled up into a fetal ball and crying at night?
13:03 <Volatile> or wget/diff if you must.
13:03 <Volatile> i bought my VIP tix
13:03 <Volatile> sup?
13:03 <Volatile> you gunna come chill in the cabana w me?!
13:03 <Volatile> :P
13:03 <sampson> i'm not goin
13:03 <Mr_Roboto> got paperwork to fill out
13:03 <sampson> i'll be at marketdays
13:04 <Volatile> heh
13:04 <Volatile> im not going either
13:04 <Volatile> lolla is for dirty hippies
13:05 <@chrism> sampson: lololol trolled by time capsul
13:13 <Volatile> heh
13:13 <Volatile> trol-lol-lol-lol-looool, lol-lol-lol-lollll
13:16 <Volatile> awesome.
13:16 <Volatile> vol@code:~$ svn co http://storage/svn/mail .
13:16 <Volatile> Segmentation fault
13:16 <Volatile> vol@code:~$
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13:17 <n|cotine> You keep your mail in svn?
13:17 <Volatile> nah
13:18 <Volatile> it's an unofficial project identifier until it gets an official name
13:19 <Volatile> weird.. i keep getting calendar reminders from lightning about my upcoming production test at 1:00pm, but if i look in the calendar, the event shows the correct time of 1:30
13:19 <Volatile> heh
13:21 <kubi> fuck testing, we'll do it live
13:21 <Volatile> loo
13:21 <Volatile> i'm not too concerned about it
13:21 <Volatile> they have some guys in india who have been fucking their live system up for over a year
13:22 <Volatile> we're just trying to undercut them and get the contract
13:22 <Volatile> cuz we're basically replacing everything the .in guys do
13:22 <Volatile> and automating it
13:22 <kubi> i was going to ask how you undercut indians
13:22 <kubi> but replacing repetative manual jobs with automation is a good one
13:22 <Volatile> they fucking get paid to download logs, manually parse them in notepad, manually generate a CSV, and email it daily
13:22 <kubi> lolll
13:22 <Volatile> i told them "we can automate this"
13:22 <kubi> i wanna bid
13:23 <Volatile> and they're like "REALLY?! HOW?"
13:23 <Volatile> i can undercut the .in by automating something they have a support contract for
13:23 <Volatile> our support contract is more expensive
13:23 <Volatile> ..but they wont be dealing with problems every day
13:24 <Volatile> the .in's fix for a system generating data that it shouldn't, was to delete the generated data, rather than fixing the cause of the unwanted generated data
13:24 <Volatile> shit like that.
13:30 <kubi> i know anytime i get bad generated data i just throw it away and pretend it didn't happen
13:30 <kubi> bugs? what bugs? i see no bugs.
13:30 <Volatile> heh
13:30 <Volatile> it was real confusing dealing with these guys initially. obviously i had no idea how their operation was running, and there were like three companies involved, one them being a fortune100
13:31 <Volatile> now that i know the deal, when they refer to "notepad reports", i know they mean the CSV files the guy manually puts together daily
13:31 <Volatile> using notepad.exe
13:31 <tronyx> lol
13:31 <Volatile> they actually refer these CSV reports as "notepad reports"
13:31 <tronyx> that's some technical shit
13:31 <@scrim> ahah
13:31 <Volatile> the funny thing is, there's no need for the report to be in CSV
13:31 <Volatile> but they've designed this over-engineered system around these manual CSV files
13:32 <Volatile> they need to grab an order # out of data. the .in solution? take the ENTIRE order, and encapsulate it in CSV
13:32 <Volatile> hand this over to a department, whose sole purpose to find order #s inside of orders
13:32 <Volatile> and pass the order #s up, to another department, which handles the orders
13:33 <@scrim> ahah jesus
13:33 <Volatile> so when i told them i could automate collection of the data, AND just return order #s
13:33 <Volatile> they were like "?!?!?"
13:33 <Volatile> hah
13:33 <@chrism> http://i.imgur.com/JQB7Z.jpg
13:33 <Volatile> keep in mind, this is a *HUGE* company. they could easily have hired some real talent for the cash they have on hand.
13:34 <Volatile> wtf
13:34 <Volatile> haha
13:34 <@chrism> hahahaha
13:34 <@chrism> "your department has been replaced with 100 lines of perl, good day"
13:35 <Volatile> it's actually C
13:35 <Volatile> but pmuch, yah
13:35 <Volatile> i had to modify their existing code
13:35 <@chrism> 1000 lines then
13:35 <Volatile> which is in C
13:35 <@chrism> =P
13:35 <Volatile> nah.. prolly like 150 additional lines
13:35 <Volatile> (mostly comments)
13:35 <Volatile> heh
13:35 <@chrism> (kidding, btw)
13:35 <Volatile> (not me)
13:35 <@chrism> (k)
13:35 <Volatile> (fffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu)
13:35 <@chrism> (!)
13:36 <Volatile> ( | )
13:36 <@chrism> (it's a butt)
13:36 <Volatile> (your butt more closely resembles an anatomically correct buff)
13:36 <Volatile> (butt too)
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13:36 <@chrism> lolol IN A BUTT
13:37 <Volatile> haha
13:37 <Volatile> 10:13 <Volatile> trol-lol-lol-lol-looool, lol-lol-lol-lollll
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14:24 <tronyx> /topic chrism is a penis head
14:24 <@chrism> LOALWAOALOWLA
14:24 <@chrism> die honkie
14:24 <tronyx> the honkie?
14:25 <tronyx> we don't speak german in here!
14:25 <@chrism> hahahaha
14:25 <@chrism> http://www.honk.ie/
14:25 <@chrism> seriously?
14:25 <@chrism> lololol
14:25 <tronyx> AHAHAHAHAHAHA
14:25 <tronyx> fucking awesome
14:25 <@chrism> wow.
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14:27 <tronyx> you still playing rift haabingaa
14:27 <tronyx> ?
14:27 <@chrism> he's playing anal spelunker
14:27 <@chrism> i dunno that's not even remotely funny
14:27 <@chrism> ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H
14:28 <Mr_Roboto> hok.ie has a trojan on it.
14:28 <Mr_Roboto> someone should tell them their shit is pwned
14:29 <@haabingaa> tronyx: yes
14:29 <@haabingaa> tronyx: hit 40 saturday
14:29 <@haabingaa> 10 lvl from cap now :o
14:30 <Mr_Roboto> sup haabingaa
14:30 <@haabingaa> chillin'
14:30 <Mr_Roboto> yeah you're on the hard core shift atm aren't ya?
14:34 <tronyx> how's the game haabingaa?
14:34 <@haabingaa> yeah running on fumes right now :)
14:38 <Mr_Roboto> I never got delirious till I hit 16 myself :D
14:38 <Mr_Roboto> when you start seeing shit be sure to tell the rest of us what it is.
14:38 <SidWork> is rift better then wow?
14:38 <SidWork> I notice more and more people are leaving wow to play rift
14:39 <tronyx> not sure, never played it myself
14:39 <tronyx> from what i gather, it copies the wow formula, enhances certain things, and provides different "stuff" contentwise
14:40 <SidWork> i checked the forums but they are all flaming one or the other.
14:40 <tronyx> i would assume going to rift would be a horizontal move but the new content might make it more interesting
14:40 <SidWork> the guild i am in cant even get a 10 man run going
14:41 <SidWork> tried to pug and still couldnt do it..
14:41 <SidWork> its like since the new expansion all of the wind left the sails
14:41 <SidWork> no one really interested in putting in the time anymore
14:42 <tronyx> i left wow because i just didn't have the time for it anymore
14:42 <mrtyfrdm> i left wow because it fucking sucks
14:42 <@scrim> same to both
14:42 <@scrim> heh
14:42 <SidWork> I would leave as well.. just need to find something better to do with my free time
14:43 <tronyx> rift
14:43 <tronyx> BF3
14:44 <tronyx> assassin's creed BH if you don't already have it
14:44 <tronyx> outside
14:44 <tronyx> books
14:44 <SidWork> Normally when it gets warm i go fishing
14:44 <SidWork> take my boat out and just enjoy the weather
14:45 <tronyx> nice
14:50 <@chrism> by boat, you mean transexual post op hooker, right?
14:50 <Volatile> loo
14:51 <Volatile> yah. imma do a ton of jet skiing
14:51 <Volatile> and by jet skiing, i mean im going to teabag some teabaggers
14:51 <Volatile> they should have called themselves the dirty sanchez party
14:51 <Volatile> or the hot carl party
14:51 <Volatile> that sounds way cooler
14:52 <Volatile> the walrus party
14:55 <@chrism> http://i.imgur.com/lywWU.jpg
14:55 <@chrism> lololo
14:55 <@chrism> trollllllled
14:55 <Volatile> everyone loves dogs
14:55 <Volatile> they could be the putting the dogs in the tub party
14:56 <Volatile> heh
14:56 <Volatile> beibtrolled
15:04 <sampson> idgi
15:04 <sampson> o i get it
15:07 <@haabingaa> rift's common 'rift' events in the open world are what make the game really interesting
15:09 <sampson> i'm about to fucking lose it
15:09 <@haabingaa> sampson: ?
15:09 <sampson> this shit is broken for no fucking reason
15:09 <sampson> and i can't get it to work
15:09 <sampson> and FUUUUUUCK
15:11 <n|cotine> OHSHI kawaiiblu DROPPIN' TWO POINT OHES
15:16 <SidWork> warn me next time
15:16 <SidWork> lol
15:16 <SidWork> tib ole bitties on my work screen
15:19 <@chrism> n|cotine: que?
15:20 <n|cotine> 20973 + Mar 28 YouSwoop (3.5K) Introducing Youswoop2.0
15:20 <@chrism> OOOH
15:20 <@chrism> SNAP
15:20 <@chrism> TWO POINT FUCKING OH
15:21 <Volatile> damn, g.
15:21 <Volatile> that's a whole point dot oh more than one point oh
15:21 <@chrism> pmuch
15:22 <Volatile> dude
15:22 <Volatile> ...
15:22 <Volatile> dude!
15:22 <Volatile> what if it was... 2.1
15:22 <Volatile> ...
15:22 <Volatile> heh
15:23 <Volatile> 9000.1 even
15:25 <SidWork> hurm i want to add memory to my macbook pro but dont want to spend money having apple do it
15:25 <SidWork> fuckers lock these machines down with special tools
15:25 <@scrim> define special?
15:25 <@scrim> torx bits or what?
15:25 <SidWork> yeah torx bits
15:26 <@scrim> that's not that special, go to the hardware store
15:26 <SidWork> tamper proof screws
15:26 <SidWork> change color when opened..
15:26 <SidWork> blah blah blah
15:26 <@scrim> oh that
15:26 <@scrim> well, welcome to apple :)
15:27 <@chrism> torx bits really aren't special
15:27 <@chrism> and theyd on't change color that's just lock-tite
15:27 <@chrism> torx bits were special back in like... 91
15:27 <@chrism> =P
15:27 <SidWork> I am trying to remember what system had them
15:27 <@scrim> support.apple.com indicates adding memory to an mbp is a supported feature
15:27 <@scrim> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1270
15:27 <SidWork> i remember having to work on something that had em
15:27 <@chrism> yeah it def. is
15:28 <@chrism> they're cool with you doing mem/drive swaps (depending on model)
15:28 <sampson> anything that's apple approved is phillips #00
15:28 <sampson> anything that is not is torx T9 or 8
15:30 <SidWork> I wonder if I can put an ssd drive in my mac book pro
15:30 <SidWork> now that would be pretty sweet
15:30 <sampson> i have one
15:30 <SidWork> the new versions have em
15:30 <sampson> yeah i put a 3rd party in mine tho
15:30 <SidWork> mine was bought back in 2009
15:30 <SidWork> sweet
15:30 <SidWork> hackentosh
15:31 <SidWork> sorta
15:31 <sampson> the ssd they provide blow ass
15:31 <SidWork> I kept hearing about speed improvements with ssd and i originally had a 32 gig one which was not super fast.
15:31 <SidWork> but wow.. the 80 gig one i bought and placed in my i7 is freakin amazing
15:31 <sampson> it's like night and day
15:32 <SidWork> yeah i mean i boot the box and less then 30 seconds the os is loaded
15:32 <@chrism> Yeah they want to swap my main drive in this mac pro for a ssd
15:32 <@chrism> i'm tentative on that
15:32 <@chrism> don't fuck w/ my workstation
15:32 <@chrism> =\
15:33 <sampson> its nice
15:33 <SidWork> So I could just buy an ssd drive.. place it in the macbook and run the install software? or do they have some firmware check
15:33 <sampson> yup
15:33 <SidWork> EFI crap
15:34 <sampson> just gotta use this to enable trim http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1125400
15:35 <SidWork> cool
15:41 <SidWork> I am going to buy another ssd drive today and put it in my mac mini
15:41 <mrtyfrdm> HEY GUYS I HAVE A MAC
15:41 <SidWork> congrats
15:41 <SidWork> welcome to the clue
15:41 <SidWork> club
15:47 <SidWork> I am seriously thinking about quitting IT and going into business selling pictures
15:47 <@scrim> aka porn?
15:47 <SidWork> taking pictures of different things in the city
15:47 <Volatile> artists make tons of cash.
15:47 <Volatile> (loo)
15:48 <SidWork> I have been doing the it stuff for like 15 years i am burned out
15:49 <Volatile> you've done everything in IT for 15 years?
15:49 <SidWork> or maybe learn more about back end solutions so i can no longer have to deal with customers (Business people) crying about services not being taken care of
15:49 <Volatile> why dont you find something you haven't done
15:49 <Volatile> and do that.
15:49 <Volatile> oh
15:49 <Volatile> yah.. level 1 sucks.
15:49 <Volatile> so does level 2
15:49 <Volatile> level 3 = winrar.
15:49 <SidWork> dude.. I started this job as a level three messaging admin
15:50 <Volatile> i'm not sure what that means
15:50 <Volatile> but if 'admin' is in your title, there's someone above you
15:50 <SidWork> Maintaining 59 servers
15:50 <SidWork> upgrades etc.. back end work
15:50 <SidWork> but the job changed quick
15:50 <SQL> users suck
15:51 <SidWork> now its supporting 12000 users outlook issues and mobility issues
15:51 <SidWork> on top of dealing with 59 servers and migrations
15:51 <SidWork> with less staff
15:51 <SidWork> lol
15:51 <SidWork> getting blood from the stone my friends
15:52 <@chrism> you should write a worm that steals one penny from every transaction
15:52 <SidWork> lol
15:52 <@scrim> ahaha
15:52 <SidWork> fraction of a penny
15:52 <@scrim> it worksed in superman 3!
15:52 <SidWork> Office Space
15:52 <SidWork> Love that movie
15:53 <@chrism> http://pastebin.com/X8znzPWH
15:53 <@chrism> mozillas addon cert jacked
15:53 <@chrism> lolololo
15:54 <Volatile> #
15:54 <Volatile> For some real dumbs, I bet they don't have IQ above 75, WHO STILL thinks I'm not the hacker, here is mozilla addon's certificate, check it's serial with one published on all the internet:
15:54 <SidWork> I have 8 bosses bob.. thats right 8 bosses
15:54 <Volatile> pro tip, when calling people "real dumbs", be sure not sound like a ritard while doing so
15:54 <@chrism> haha
15:54 <SidWork> lol
15:55 <@scrim> ahaha
15:55 <Volatile> having the cert doesn't mean he can sign anything, or the cert can't be revoked
15:55 <Volatile> ...
15:56 <SQL> he is an infidel haxor
15:56 <SQL> <grin>
15:57 <@chrism> http://pastebin.com/F7tVbw8q
15:57 <@chrism> hell that might be legit
15:57 <@chrism> Volatile: yeah true
15:57 <Volatile> #
15:57 <Volatile> Some others said I said too much about myself and enjoyed myself too much, if you were did same thing, wouldn't you enjoy like me? :))
15:57 <Volatile> what a fucking retard.
15:57 <@chrism> or, ESL
15:58 <@scrim> ESL for sure
15:59 <Volatile> oh shit
15:59 <Volatile> he writes NEW cryptographic algorithms
15:59 <Volatile> and not just that
15:59 <@chrism> hahah
15:59 <Volatile> he writes both symmetric AND asymmetric
15:59 <Volatile> shit. once he created a secure hash algorithm.
15:59 <Volatile> I already created my own encryption protocol, from asymmetric algorithm (for key exchange) to symmetric algorithm for encrypting data to my own hash algorithm to sign encrypted algorithms. You are so far from knowing about me...
15:59 <Volatile> haha.. haha ha hahahahah
16:00 <Volatile> hahahha
16:00 <Volatile> I CREATED MY OWN ENCRYPTION PROTOCOL FROM ASYMMETRIC ALGORITM TO SYMMETRIC ALGORITHM FOR ENCRYPTING TO MY HASH ALGORITHM TO SIGN ENCRYPTED ALGORITHMS.
16:00 <SidWork> Now Kiss my Hard Drive
16:01 <Volatile> or shortened: I CREATED MY OWN ENCRYPTION PROTOCOL FOR ENCRYPTING MY HASH ALGORITHM TO SIGN ENCRYPTED ALGORITHMS
16:01 <Volatile> Man! I create my own APIs, from web SOAP XML APIs to windows DLLs with exports.
16:01 <SidWork> Superman 3 .. he tried to hack the planet
16:02 <Volatile> HOLY FUCK. DLLs EXPORTING SHIT.
16:02 <Volatile> this kid is obviously an uber hacker
16:02 <SidWork> the kids dont use hacker/hacking anymore
16:02 <Volatile> ?
16:02 <SidWork> they use "Lock Picking"
16:03 <SidWork> as a term for hacking
16:03 <@scrim> there's a lot of cross over from the hacking and lock picking communities
16:03 <SidWork> yup
16:03 <SidWork> hacking gives em to much attention
16:04 <SidWork> or should i say the term "Hacking/Hacker"
16:04 <@scrim> i mean people who shove bits of metal into locks to cause them to open
16:04 <SidWork> lol
16:04 <SidWork> scrim home land security will want to chat with you..
16:04 <@scrim> it's perfectly legal
16:05 <SidWork> they want to know more about the biuts of metal into locks
16:05 <@scrim> you can for instance, pick your own front door lock all day long
16:05 <SidWork> yes you can
16:05 <@chrism> depending on your neighborhood
16:05 <@chrism> =P
16:05 <@chrism> TAZER'D
16:05 <@scrim> ahah yeah
16:05 <Volatile> i picked the lock on the fusebox in a bar for the owner
16:05 <Volatile> IN THE DARK
16:05 <@scrim> skills
16:05 <Volatile> pmuch
16:06 <SidWork> 3l33t
16:06 <Volatile> someone held a flashlight tho
16:06 <Volatile> not entirely honest
16:06 <Volatile> :(
16:06 <SidWork> Boo
16:06 <@scrim> ahah
16:06 <@scrim> next you'll say by "pick" you mean "bashed at it with a pool q"
16:06 <@chrism> "I just threw beer at it for awhile"
16:06 <@chrism> "fucker opened"
16:07 <SidWork> haha
16:07 <Volatile> heh
16:07 <SidWork> I remember 2600 meetings where kids would bring stuff from CTA lockers
16:07 <Volatile> nah, i have a pretty extensive lock collection
16:07 <SidWork> they would pick the freakin lockers and steal shit
16:07 <Volatile> and i have a full locksmithing set
16:08 <Volatile> including skelkeys for major car manufacturers
16:08 <Volatile> heh
16:08 <Volatile> SUP BRAH
16:08 <Volatile> that shit's illegal tho
16:08 <Volatile> so shh
16:08 <@chrism> LOGGED VIA ORB
16:08 <Volatile> OH SHIT
16:08 <Volatile> IM GOING DOWN
16:08 <Volatile> heh
16:10 <sampson> haha
16:10 <sampson> BEST TIMING EVER
16:10 <sampson> Hi Sam-
16:10 <sampson> We do show Singlehop has support through midnight tonight.
16:10 <sampson> A technical support engineer will be in touch shortly.
16:11 <Volatile> working late?
16:11 <sampson> probably
16:11 <@scrim> ahah they'll just delay until 12:01 :)
16:11 <Volatile> SAN FRANCISCO (Dow Jones)--Apple Inc. (AAPL) offices in Elk Grove, Calif.,
16:11 <Volatile> were evacuated Monday morning following a telephoned bomb threat.
16:11 <Volatile> someone shorted AAPL
16:12 <Volatile> and got mad that it just keeps going up
16:12 <Volatile> ;P
16:15 <@chrism> so, vol got a weird one for ya
16:15 <Volatile> ?
16:15 <@chrism> doing a stat() on a file returns an odd number... the docs say it's "file mode (type and permissions)";
16:16 <@chrism> wtf is the "type"?
16:16 <sampson> got this binary
16:16 <sampson> text
16:16 <Volatile> stat() returns an odd number?
16:16 <Volatile> or the contents of the stat structure
16:16 <@chrism> like hld
16:17 <Volatile> im not familiar with a stat() "type", just "mode", which is a bitmask containing information on the type of file, and perms
16:17 <@chrism> http://pastie.org/private/oamgzwcqgabwcqbhuqcrha
16:17 <@chrism> like that
16:17 <tronyx> damn, Volatile knows how to code some linux
16:17 <@chrism> now i know how to mask th e# that comes back to get the proper perms according to the filesystem
16:17 <Volatile> oh
16:18 <@chrism> my question is, wtf is the rest of that and why am I masking here?
16:18 <Volatile> man 2 mode
16:18 <Volatile> that particular field has many diff things in it other than just perms
16:18 <@chrism> no entry mode in section 2o f the manual
16:18 <@chrism> =\
16:18 <@chrism> yeah i figured as much just trying to figure out what
16:18 <Volatile> struct stat {
16:18 <Volatile> dev_t st_dev; /* ID of device containing file */
16:18 <Volatile> ino_t st_ino; /* inode number */
16:18 <Volatile> mode_t st_mode; /* protection */
16:18 <@chrism> ooooooh
16:18 <Volatile> S_IFMT 0170000 bit mask for the file type bit fields
16:18 <Volatile> S_IFSOCK 0140000 socket
16:18 <Volatile> S_IFLNK 0120000 symbolic link
16:18 <Volatile> S_IFREG 0100000 regular file
16:18 <Volatile> S_IFBLK 0060000 block device
16:18 <Volatile> S_IFDIR 0040000 directory
16:18 <Volatile> S_IFCHR 0020000 character device
16:18 <Volatile> etc
16:18 <Volatile> there's quite a few.
16:18 <@chrism> gotcha gotcha
16:19 <@chrism> that makes sense
16:19 <@chrism> gracias
16:19 <Volatile> np.
16:19 <Volatile> install the base man pages
16:19 <Volatile> what distro you on?
16:19 <Volatile> libc docs ftw.
16:19 <@chrism> cent
16:19 <@chrism> aah
16:20 <Volatile> yeh. get the libc docs. they'll be supar handy for anything that makes a system call, even if the documentation is all C.
16:20 <m1k[3y]--> we just had a new QA start at my work who seriously has inspirational posters hanging in his cubical in a completely non ironic way
16:20 <m1k[3y]--> QA manager that is
16:20 <Volatile> aha
16:20 <@chrism> oh wow
16:21 <m1k[3y]--> i love it around here...since we got this new d-bag of a CTO we have hired more managers then actual workers
16:22 <@chrism> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8vNzwxlohg0/TQk8nIaOLYI/AAAAAAAABPc/F9q0tbfJMdw/s640/Fire+Jose.jpg
16:22 <tuples> yikes
16:22 <@chrism> title "Due to corporate cutbacks, they may have to fire jose"
16:22 <m1k[3y]--> hahha
16:22 <m1k[3y]--> that about sums up timeout newyork
16:23 <@chrism> This financial crisis is forcing California State and local agencies to make some tough decisions. If things continue for much longer, there's a real risk that we may have to lay off Jose.
16:29 <m1k[3y]--> i like the ruby code examples on the wikipedia entry for ruby
16:29 <m1k[3y]--> "Your mother is nice.".index("u")
16:29 <@chrism> what
16:29 <@chrism> what is that even doing?
16:30 <m1k[3y]--> getting the index of "u
16:30 <m1k[3y]--> in this case
16:30 <m1k[3y]--> 2
16:30 <m1k[3y]--> :)
16:31 <@chrism> really, puts instead of print?
16:32 <m1k[3y]--> it's ruby dude
16:32 <m1k[3y]--> they do things their own way
16:32 <@chrism> weird, to each their own I guess
16:32 <@chrism> :shrug:"
16:33 <m1k[3y]--> i want to learn a MVC. just taking a peek at rails
16:34 <Volatile> you're going to learn visual C?
16:34 <Volatile> that doesn't make sense
16:34 <m1k[3y]--> nope
16:34 <Volatile> no one has used visual C for like 10 years, brah
16:34 <Volatile> might as well learn pascal
16:34 <Volatile> heh
16:34 <Volatile> shitis := awesome;
16:35 <@chrism> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model%E2%80%93view%E2%80%93controller
16:35 <@chrism> I believe is what's being ref'd
16:35 <Volatile> i'm currently developing a java virtual machine in Brainfuck
16:35 <@chrism> ooooh
16:35 <@chrism> like an abstraction layer
16:35 <@chrism> yeah i don't get that tbh
16:35 <m1k[3y]--> it's a framework
16:35 <@chrism> like i get it
16:35 <@chrism> but i don't
16:35 <@chrism> it's nice to take a lot of the gruntwork out of building an app for sure
16:35 <Volatile> MVC was first described in 1979[2] by Trygve Reenskaug, then working on Smalltalk at Xerox PARC. The original implementation is described in depth in the influential paper "Applications Programming in Smalltalk-80: How to use Model–View–Controller".[3]
16:35 <Volatile> [edit]
16:35 <Volatile> okay
16:35 <m1k[3y]--> well, i guess the goal is to make web development a bit easier
16:35 <@chrism> but some of the shit goes too fucking goofy
16:35 <Volatile> 1979
16:35 <Volatile> i guarnatee there's a better way
16:35 <Volatile> ;P
16:36 <@chrism> like you see all these crazy database querying abstraction methods now
16:36 <@chrism> an dlike, fuck man, formulating a goddamned sql query IS NOT HARD
16:36 <@chrism> ya know, if you can't do that, maybe you shouldn't be dicking with DBs in the first place. =\ (not you personally, generalities)
16:36 <Volatile> it doesn't make web design "easier" when you separate the two
16:36 <Volatile> that's a myth
16:37 <Volatile> it makes it functionally harder to develop, but easier to maintain
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16:37 <Volatile> you should learn C#
16:37 <Volatile> it has all kinds of embedded SQL shit
16:37 <Volatile> pretty neat high-level shit
16:37 <Volatile> or ASP/PHP
16:37 <sampson> c# rules
16:37 <Volatile> Pythin django is neat
16:38 <Volatile> python
16:39 <@chrism> at some point i'm going to take a look at python
16:39 <@chrism> but I want to get more time under my belt w/ perl first
16:39 <@chrism> since that's kinda what I do for a living and alla that
16:39 <@chrism> lol
16:39 <Volatile> python is good for POC
16:39 <Volatile> ..but the whitespace rules are fucking gay
16:39 <kubi> POC?
16:39 <@chrism> haha
16:39 <Volatile> it's almost impossible to share with another developer
16:40 <@chrism> yeah the whitespace shit is lame
16:40 <kubi> ...
16:40 <kubi> i work on open source python projects
16:40 <Volatile> unless you both have duplicate editing systems
16:40 <kubi> all you have to do is define a style
16:40 <@chrism> .css
16:40 <@chrism> =P
16:40 <Volatile> kubi, plz do share a python project edited in visual studio, with someone working in vim
16:40 <@chrism> keep in mind i'm speaking out of ignorance here, i've never fucked w/ it
16:40 <Volatile> okay, go!
16:40 <Volatile> POC = proof of concept
16:40 <kubi> gotcha
16:40 <kubi> lol
16:41 <@chrism> .vim styles are fairly easy to do fwiw
16:41 <kubi> everyone i know uses vim :p
16:41 <@chrism> but yeah, a tab is not a tab is not a tab
16:41 <Volatile> sharing them between different editors
16:41 <Volatile> across diff operating systems
16:41 <Volatile> good luck
16:41 <kubi> sharing between different editors is easy, operating systems not so much
16:41 <Volatile> that's why every other language has made whitespace NOT MATTER
16:41 <Volatile> anyway
16:41 <kubi> i doubt that's the reason ;)
16:41 <Volatile> stackless python is awesome for game dev
16:41 <Volatile> kubi, yah it is
16:41 <Volatile> whitspace is a matter of style more than anything else
16:42 <kubi> yeah, and enforcing consistent style makes kubi happy.
16:42 <Volatile> enforcing whitespace causes difficulties, and makes you follow someone elses style
16:42 <kubi> and?
16:42 <Volatile> why doesnt python enforce CRLF?
16:42 <kubi> i don't want to look at a file with 10 different styles in it
16:42 <Volatile> purposely disallowing a plain LF?
16:42 <kubi> because windows is lame.
16:42 <Volatile> right
16:42 <kubi> i dunno
16:42 <kubi> shrug
16:43 <@chrism> I'd say that's a problem with educating devs and really shoudln't be enforced at the code level
16:43 <@chrism> =\
16:43 <Volatile> how about different displays rendering tabs differently?
16:43 <kubi> soft tabs
16:43 <Volatile> right
16:43 <kubi> hard tabs ftl
16:43 <Volatile> so your 'style' may look different on my display
16:43 <Volatile> even if they contain the same data
16:43 <Volatile> that's why whitespace enforcement is gay
16:43 <Volatile> it's an oxymoron
16:43 <kubi> but does that matter as long as it's consistent?
16:44 <kubi> even if my 4 space tab displays on your machine as a 6 space tab as long as they're still both tabs it doesn't matter
16:45 <Volatile> heh
16:45 <Volatile> the funny thing about python
16:45 <kubi> but yeah, i wouldn't want to try a python project across windows/linux
16:45 <Volatile> is that it just enforces the first whitespace it sees
16:45 <kubi> but i do know i work on projects with hundreds of other developers in python
16:45 <kubi> and have no problems with whitespace
16:45 <Volatile> well, obviously there's success using python
16:45 <Volatile> im not saying python is bad
16:45 <Volatile> i think the whitespace stuff is silly
16:45 <kubi> granted they're kernel related projects
16:45 <kubi> linux kernel
16:45 <kubi> so everyone uses linux
16:46 <Volatile> kernel projects in python?
16:46 <Volatile> like what?
16:46 <Volatile> (stackless python ftw)
16:46 <kubi> http://autotest.kernel.org
16:46 <kubi> mainly
16:47 <kubi> some other internal nonsense
16:47 <Volatile> ah
16:47 <kubi> but that one is big, has involvement from IBM, Red Hat, Nokia, etc
16:47 <Volatile> looks neat.
16:47 <Volatile> automatic regression testing?
16:47 <kubi> so it's a LOT of python code
16:47 <Volatile> yeah, i bet.
16:47 <kubi> contributed by people from different companies
16:47 <Volatile> so like: develop test for X feature, gets run when a test kernel is built
16:47 <Volatile> yah?
16:47 <kubi> yeah, not necessarily automatic
16:47 <kubi> but we have some wrappers for automating it further
16:48 <Volatile> that's coo
16:48 <kubi> although i guess it can do that now
16:48 <@chrism> sampson: your cloud is broken
16:48 <@chrism> pass it on
16:48 <@chrism> =P
16:48 <Volatile> my main python stuff is stackless python for embedded stuff
16:48 <kubi> you can schedule a job that runs at different intervals
16:48 <Volatile> ..but nothing all that fancy
16:48 <Volatile> i've mainly used python for testing high-level API quickly
16:48 <Volatile> instead of writing 150 lines of C code, 5 lines of python
16:48 <kubi> and yeah we can tie it to the kernel continuous build but i'm trying to get away from the kernel fucks
16:48 <kubi> cause i hate them
16:48 <kubi> with a burning passion
16:49 <Volatile> building a custom kernel i assume?
16:49 <kubi> yeah python is fantastic for doing anything fast
16:49 <kubi> yeah
16:49 <Volatile> cool
16:50 <Volatile> ive yet to use python for anything in production
16:50 <Volatile> i hope to have time to rectify that at some point
16:50 <@chrism> How's pythons library of stuff?
16:50 <@chrism> i.e., cpan equiv?
16:50 <Volatile> it's very good
16:51 <@chrism> good quality? Not like the php shit?
16:51 <Volatile> well, i dunno
16:51 <Volatile> like i said, never used in production
16:53 <Volatile> if i remember correctly, the base pythoin packages that come along cover a wide range
16:53 <Volatile> whether additional packages can compete with CPAN... i doubt it
16:53 <Volatile> CPAN is pretty fucking extensive
16:53 <Volatile> heh
16:54 <Volatile> you can find a CPAN module to brush just your back four teeth, which is a simplified version of a teeth brushing module that extends an oral care module
16:54 <@chrism> yeah for sure, which is a lot of why I <3 it
16:54 <@chrism> but tbh I don't know about the other langues equivelants of that
16:55 <@chrism> except that PHP contributors are fucking horrible hacks
16:55 <@chrism> =\
16:55 <tronyx> <?php
16:55 <tronyx> phpinfo();
16:55 <tronyx> ?>
16:55 <tronyx> tuck that under your hat
16:55 <Volatile> PHP is fine for websites
16:55 <Volatile> that's pretty much it.
16:55 <tronyx> and kernels
16:55 <Volatile> anyone using it for anything else probably just doesnt know any better.
16:55 <tronyx> linux kernel 3.0 will be done in PHP
16:55 <@chrism> i've seen so many of it's extensions just BREAK when built on a different OS
16:56 <@chrism> and they break horribly
16:56 <Volatile> well
16:56 <@chrism> for no good fucking reason
16:56 <Volatile> there's plenty of perl modules that dont work right either
16:56 <Volatile> heh
16:56 <@chrism> Yeah true
16:56 <@chrism> btu this is stupid shit
16:56 <@chrism> i.e., trying to build against a library in static "expected" location
16:56 <Volatile> heh
16:56 <@chrism> "Oh herpader, linux is /lib/, that's where it'll always be!"
16:56 <@chrism> "oh what do you mean it's in /usr/lib/ BREAK BREAK BREAK"
16:57 <Volatile> hmmz
16:57 <Volatile> bad example
16:57 <@chrism> i mean just stupid shit fucking over portability
16:57 <Volatile> but i get your idea
16:57 <Volatile> ;P
16:57 <@chrism> nah that's a realwordl example actually
16:57 <Volatile> ?
16:57 <kubi> yeah python libraries are pretty quality
16:57 <Volatile> someone pased -L/lib and it br0x?
16:57 <@chrism> they hard code expected locations of libraries, so while it might work on most Linux variants, it shits itself on bsd
16:58 <@chrism> def. run into that on multiple modules
16:58 <Volatile> curious tho
16:58 <@chrism> that's via pear/pecl or some shit
16:58 <Volatile> how did they hard-code /lib/path?
16:58 <@chrism> gotta go in and redo the makefile and it's good
16:58 <Volatile> gcc takes -L and -l
16:58 <Volatile> -L being paths
16:58 <Volatile> and -l being library names
16:58 <@chrism> this has been a few months, otherwise I could drag up the exact ticket this happened in
16:58 <@chrism> =\
16:58 <Volatile> -L/lib and -L/usr/lib are done already
16:58 <Volatile> *shrug*
16:58 <Volatile> heh
16:59 <@chrism> all I know is repointing the expected lib dirs in the makefile worked like a charm, or conversly just coyping the libs to the expected location worked, etc
16:59 <Volatile> i think the linux dynamic linker should be re-written in Ruby
16:59 <@chrism> erlang
16:59 <Volatile> nah man
16:59 <Volatile> erlang is OVERPOWERED for that
16:59 <@chrism> kubi: nice
16:59 <@chrism> lololo
16:59 <Volatile> too many cores, brah
16:59 <@chrism> kubi: i'll check into it for shits n giggles at some tpoint
16:59 <kubi> they don't have anything as cool as cpan
17:00 <kubi> i think there's some python library that is supposed to be like cpan but i've never used it
17:00 <kubi> i just use apt
17:00 <Volatile> yah
17:00 <Volatile> the base stuff python does is pretty extensive
17:00 <Volatile> like.. perl doesn't come with a curl-type module
17:00 <Volatile> python has packages for curl-type work
17:01 <Volatile> last python i did was some opengl binding stuff
17:01 <Volatile> heh
17:01 <Volatile> I WAS DOING TESSALATION OF 2D TEXTURES INTO POLYGONS
17:01 <Volatile> SUP
17:01 * Volatile tessalates all over your face
17:02 <Volatile> what the fuck
17:02 <Volatile> twice in the last week
17:02 <Volatile> i've run into two projects that require a specific type of line convention
17:02 <Volatile> is it so difficult to check for either CR, LF, or CRLF?
17:03 <kubi> apparently
17:03 <Volatile> > When I upload it to the mainframe it is all getting strung together as one line. Like there isn't a cr/lf at the end of each line. Once my process runs the file is removed from the server in case you are looking for it.
17:08 <m1k[3y]--> i should learn c#
17:08 <Volatile> it's a neet language
17:09 <m1k[3y]--> i took a web dev class once that was taught with asp.net using C#
17:09 <Volatile> yikes.
17:11 <m1k[3y]--> well, this was like years ago though
17:11 <Volatile> why would you take a class for web development? don't you work in IT?
17:12 <m1k[3y]--> i was going for web dev
17:12 <m1k[3y]--> but dropped out to work as a system administrator
17:12 <m1k[3y]--> but thinking of getting back into it
17:12 <m1k[3y]--> i dropped out when i started midphase
17:12 <m1k[3y]--> bad move on my part
17:12 <m1k[3y]--> haha
17:17 <sampson> thinkin imma delete my fb for sure now
17:17 <sampson> these polls are fucking stupid and annoying
17:20 <sampson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCTBHm29SrM
17:22 <m1k[3y]--> yeah, that is growing to be an annoying trend
17:28 <@chrism> ironic: the only polls I see on FB are the ones you're tinkering with sam
17:28 <@chrism> lolololololol
17:29 <m1k[3y]--> hahha
17:57 <Volatile> heh
17:58 <Volatile> oh you guys!
18:01 <Volatile> http://www.popjolly.com/woman-uses-sperm-from-oral-sex-to-impregnate-self-gets-child-support-2109
18:01 <Volatile> hahahah
18:01 <@chrism> wow.
18:02 <@chrism> how in the fuck is that legal?
18:02 <Volatile> However it seems the girlfriend needed solid affirmation, in which after oral sex she held the sperm in her mouth and then ended up using a test tube to inject her boyfriend’s semen inside herself.
18:04 <Volatile> i'm sure she was super trust-worthy before the said blowjob.
18:06 <Volatile> haha
18:06 <Volatile> wired rated dragon 2 a 5/10
18:06 <@chrism> wow.
18:06 <@chrism> why?
18:06 <Volatile> i have to agree.
18:06 <Volatile> well
18:06 <Volatile> they put it quite well:
18:06 <Volatile> Every job and task in Dragon Age II is a crash course in boredom. You’ll talk to somebody, engage in a few lines of banter, and eventually get sent to go kill a group of bad guys.
18:07 <Volatile> While this might sound like familiar, pleasant ground to RPG fans, Dragon Age II exacerbates the standard monotony of questing by overwhelming you with names and tasks. You’ll be settling disputes between mages and templars and assassinating a cadre of criminals, all sprinkled with a potpourri of obscure names like Ashaad and Feynriel that all run together.
18:07 <Volatile> Mostly, this takes place inside the Kirkwall city limits, which you’ll get to know quite intimately. The world of Dragon Age II is extraordinarily small, largely confining you to a few districts of Kirkwall that you must visit ad infinitum. I just found myself clearing out quests based on how geographically close they were to me, advancing quests in no specific order and finishing each section with no real grasp on all of the plot points.
18:07 <Volatile> http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/03/dragon-age-ii-review/
18:07 <Volatile> dunno why im pasting
18:07 <Volatile> heh
18:07 <Volatile> they Mass Effect'd an RPG
18:07 <Volatile> and made it suck.
18:07 <@chrism> hey
18:07 <Volatile> mass effect is an action RPG.. like zelda.
18:07 <@chrism> I like mass efect
18:07 <@chrism> =(
18:08 <Volatile> sure
18:08 <@chrism> effect even
18:08 <Volatile> mass effect is good
18:08 <Volatile> Dragon Age was a *real* RPG
18:08 <Volatile> ;P
18:08 <@chrism> oh gotcha
18:08 <@chrism> yeah fair nuff
18:08 <Volatile> and their summation of the quests is perfect
18:08 <Volatile> they *do* throw all these faction names at you
18:08 <Volatile> and none of them ever stick
18:08 <@chrism> hahah
18:08 <@chrism> that's horrible
18:08 <Volatile> if there were like 2 factions
18:08 <Volatile> or three
18:09 <Volatile> maybe
18:09 <Volatile> but there's TONS of these obscure groups
18:09 <Volatile> that you hear of once
18:09 <@chrism> g'damnit why does sprintf not work like printf
18:09 <@chrism> =\
18:09 <Volatile> it does?
18:09 <@chrism> I must be missing something
18:09 <Volatile> they both use variable arguments api
18:09 <Volatile> man vsnprintf
18:10 <@chrism> Permissions are 0644
18:10 <@chrism> FANCYPANTS HERPADERP: 100644
18:10 <Volatile> ROLL YOUR OWN
18:10 <Volatile> ?
18:10 <@chrism> http://pastie.org/1728550
18:10 <Volatile> yah
18:10 <@chrism> like i mean the sprintf variant is easy enough to clean up
18:10 <@chrism> that's not a problem
18:11 <@chrism> i'm just curious *why*
18:11 <Volatile> your bitmask doesn't allow for the highest bit
18:11 <@chrism> oooooh
18:11 <@chrism> HERPAERP
18:11 <Volatile> heh
18:11 <Volatile> ironic herpaderp
18:11 <@chrism> fuckin a it's been a long day
18:11 <@chrism> =(
18:11 <Volatile> i hear yah
18:11 <Volatile> ;P
18:11 <@chrism> herpaderp is my new replacement for "LOLDIX" in scrap code
18:11 <Volatile> i had a 20 minute discussion today about *how* a ticket was opened
18:11 <@chrism> heh
18:11 <@chrism> LOL
18:11 <Volatile> rather than the solution to the ticket
18:12 <@chrism> yeah that sounds like today
18:12 <Volatile> heh
18:13 <@chrism> fuck me yeha that was it, i was just assuming... bah fuckit yeah exactly I was just assuming shit
18:13 * chrism sighs
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18:29 <Volatile> heh
18:29 <Volatile> bai!
18:31 <@chrism> BAI
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20:41 <kt> billay
20:43 <billay> kt
20:43 <billay> tmrw i might finally get fired
20:43 <billay> hire me!
20:44 <kt> you work for cheap right?
20:44 <kt> so yer still not fired?
20:45 <billay> they're waiting on something
20:45 <billay> i haven't done any actual work in close to a month
20:45 <billay> it's kinda awesome actually
20:45 <billay> the american dream! to be paid to do nothing
20:45 <kt> as long as they're still paying you :)
20:48 <kt> how's the gf?
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20:52 <billay> she's well
20:53 <billay> she'll have to support me in my old age
20:57 <dvitous> hah
20:57 <dvitous> thats been my last 3 mos
20:57 <dvitous> quite literally
20:57 <dvitous> gets quite boring after a while
21:02 <kt> only 3?
21:03 <dvitous> so far
21:04 <dvitous> they let everyone gettin cut leave today
21:04 <dvitous> 60+ ppls
21:04 <dvitous> its like werkin a weekend
21:05 <dvitous> ...so I remember
21:09 <kt> lovely
21:09 <dvitous> imma go in tomorrow, then be home the rest of the week
21:09 <dvitous> then i go to NY on sunday
21:09 <dvitous> yew wanna drive me to the airport?
21:10 <kt> not especially
21:11 <kt> how long are you gunna be in NY?
21:12 <billay> yay NY
21:12 <dvitous> comin back wed afternoon
21:13 <kt> ahh
21:13 <kt> the wife doesn't want to drive you? :)
21:16 <billay> what's in NY
21:18 <dvitous> the mothershit
21:18 <dvitous> er
21:18 <dvitous> ship
21:18 <kt> ahahha
21:18 <dvitous> i go meet the ppls I'll be working for/with for the next 3 mos
21:19 <dvitous> part of their ploy to get me to stay
21:19 <dvitous> aint gonna happen
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21:45 <kt> barro
21:50 <billay> kt: want me to bring you back a horse burger from slovenia?
21:50 <kt> miss thing would cry
21:51 <billay> awww
21:51 <billay> i shall partake regardless
21:54 <kt> dont tell her that
21:56 <billay> http://www.ljubljana-life.com/eat/restaurants_details/96-Hot_Horse
21:56 <billay> Hot Horse!
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