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#Chicago on Friday, April 22, 2011



Links mentioned today:
http://i.imgur.com/qO4dg.png
http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/06/11/lightning-strike-triggers-amazon-ec2-outage/\
http://www.phenona.com/
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/04/21/2011-04-21_feisty_feline_washed_away_in_storms_swims_safely_across_new_york_harbor_lands_on.html
http://www.kokezaru.net/images/dogclothes.jpg
http://redis.io/documentation
http://www.mysql.com/products/enterprise/query.html
http://www.austinhomebrew.com/product_info.php?products_id=12877
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAWpkZSCMXU
http://www.uproxx.com/feature/2011/04/50-cats-straight-chillin/#page/1


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07:20 <Volatile> morning
07:53 <Volatile> SEOUL, South Korea (AP) -- South Korea's Samsung Electronics Co. said it is suing Apple Inc. for patent rights violations, only days after Apple sued Samsung for the same reason.
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09:53 <+sampson> lo
09:59 <Volatile> hiz
10:09 <@chrism> werd
10:09 <chrispi> FUCK YEAH FRIDAY
10:12 <Volatile> friday friday
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10:16 <+sampson> fuck my face friday
10:22 <@chrism> lol reddit STILL broken
10:22 <@chrism> go go amazon
10:22 <phobosd> THE CLOUD
10:22 <@chrism> pmuch
10:23 <@chrism> man that's fucking rough
10:23 <@chrism> 24+ hour outage?
10:23 <phobosd> wow they lost a fucking volume lol
10:23 <phobosd> i'm just now reading this
10:24 <phobosd> We expect that well reach a point where a minority of these stuck volumes will need to be restored with a more time consuming process, using backups made to S3 yesterday (these will have longer recovery times for the affected volumes).
10:24 <phobosd> from their latest update
10:24 <@chrism> heh damn
10:25 <@chrism> i saw this on amazon last night when I was looking for jars
10:25 <@chrism> http://i.imgur.com/qO4dg.png
10:25 <@chrism> and lol'd fucking hard
10:25 <@chrism> you take those three things, and add spores and you're growing shrooms
10:28 <+sampson> and end up on a few lists
10:28 <@chrism> probably
10:28 <@chrism> i always bought my shit from walmart
10:28 <@chrism> lol
10:29 <+sampson> i'm still kinda miffed that i can't get shit through customs without a major headache
10:30 <@scrim> what shit?
10:30 <+sampson> anything
10:30 <+sampson> 6 years ago a roommate of mine ordered illegal prescription drugs from india, got busted and was also ordering steroids and suppliments
10:30 <@scrim> oh
10:30 <@scrim> illegal things
10:30 <+sampson> they put my name on "the list"
10:30 <+sampson> nah
10:30 <@scrim> can't help you there :)
10:30 <+sampson> *anything* that goes through customs gets checked if my name is on it
10:31 <@scrim> oh i see
10:31 <@scrim> good luck :)
10:31 <+sampson> i've never not had it happen since then and i don't buy illegal shit
10:31 <+sampson> like i bought a caddy thing to put a hd for my 360 in
10:31 <+sampson> it took 3 months to get here
10:31 <+sampson> shipped a game to canada priority
10:31 <+sampson> took 2.5 months to get there
10:32 <@chrism> haha wow
10:33 <@scrim> ship things to john?
10:38 <Volatile> has amazon said why its down?
10:40 <+sampson> lightning strike
10:40 <@chrism> w-hat
10:41 <+sampson> oh wait
10:41 <+sampson> that was june of 2009
10:41 <+sampson> this one no
10:41 <+sampson> http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/06/11/lightning-strike-triggers-amazon-ec2-outage/\
10:41 <Volatile> kinda odd. doesn't amazon have a bazillion different data centers for their cloud?
10:41 <@chrism> just signed up for this
10:41 <@chrism> http://www.phenona.com/
10:41 <Volatile> must be some core implementation issue?
10:41 <@chrism> curious to see what that's about
10:41 <Volatile> they run your perl?
10:42 <@chrism> lol well yeah
10:42 <Volatile> bindshell.pl?
10:42 <@chrism> hahaha
10:42 <@chrism> dunno, i used the cPanel name when asking for an acct, so if that doesn't get me a fucking login i dunno what will
10:42 <@chrism> we'll see
10:43 <Volatile> The most expensive car at the show and arguably the most exclusive car ever produced for consumers would be the $1.4 million Bugatti Veryron, says Schienberg.
10:43 <Volatile> It is one of the world's fastest cars with a 1000+ horsepower engine fed by four bi-turbochargers. The car can go zero to 60 miles per hour in 2.5 seconds!
10:44 <Volatile> Uber-Luxury vs Affordability: The $1.4M Bugatti’s Tires Cost More Than One Nissan Versa
10:44 <Volatile> heh
10:44 <@chrism> haha
10:44 <@chrism> man that car has been in that spot for like 5+ years now?
10:44 <@chrism> like note, they don't even bother putting what year it is in there
10:44 <+sampson> http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/04/21/2011-04-21_feisty_feline_washed_away_in_storms_swims_safely_across_new_york_harbor_lands_on.html
10:44 <Volatile> heh
10:44 <@chrism> they're just like "it's a fucking veyron, you dont' care what year it was made"
10:45 <@chrism> and they misspelled the name of the car in that
10:45 <Volatile> yeah?
10:46 <@chrism> yeah it's a Veyron
10:46 <@chrism> not a Veryron
10:46 <@chrism> lol
10:46 <Volatile> Veryroon
10:46 <@chrism> loooooll
10:47 <Volatile> this image is very disturbing to me. no idea why. http://www.kokezaru.net/images/dogclothes.jpg
10:48 <@chrism> because it should be
10:49 <@chrism> http://redis.io/documentation
10:49 <@chrism> that's kinda crazy
10:49 <@chrism> it's a server whose sole job is to store key value pairs
10:49 <@chrism> like you'd have to do something fucking massive to make that necessary
10:50 <+sampson> i could see uses
10:50 <@chrism> yeah for sure
10:50 <@chrism> but it'd need to be *massive* whatever you were doing
10:50 <@chrism> otherwise it's just LOOK HOW COOL I AM HERPADERP
10:50 <+sampson> i just had a :wtf: moment
10:50 <@chrism> only one?
10:51 <+sampson> this guy had db issues and i'm like it looks like indexing but i'm no dba so i was like that's all i can relaly point to, idk
10:51 <+sampson> so he spends $1000/hr for support
10:51 <+sampson> they fix the indexing problem
10:51 <+sampson> and he's mad at me
10:51 <+sampson> it's like gtfo you pay $30/month for me you get what you pay for
10:51 <@chrism> hahah
10:51 <+sampson> i mean seriously, it WAS an indexing issue so i was right
10:52 <+sampson> but again, not a dba
10:52 <+sampson> not gonna go around screwing with schema i'm a sysadmin i can just tell you what's broke
10:52 <@chrism> yeah no doubt
10:52 <@chrism> you risk fucking up so much more by tinkering
10:52 <+sampson> mmhmmm
10:53 <+sampson> and when you're dealing with tables that have millions of rows it takes a longass time to build those indexes
10:54 <Volatile> redis is written in Ruby?
10:54 <Volatile> nevermind ;P
10:54 <@chrism> k
10:54 <@chrism> lol
11:13 <@chrism> 6dear god strace on tomcat
11:14 <@chrism> holy fucking hell
11:14 <m1k[3y]> hahaha
11:14 <m1k[3y]> that is always a lot of fun
11:14 <@chrism> like this is a jsvc instance not doing ANYTHING
11:14 <@chrism> and it's polling like fucking woah
11:14 <m1k[3y]> that is java/tomcat for you
11:14 <m1k[3y]> a whole lot of fucking bullshit
11:16 <@chrism> man what in the shit
11:16 <@chrism> so yeah i spent a ton of time doing unit tests for all the tomcat based shit in cPanel
11:16 <@chrism> come to find out our test suite boxes shit 'emselves on tomcat
11:16 <m1k[3y]> cpanel still supports tomcat?
11:16 <@chrism> now, i learned this AFTER i spent like a day troubleshooting my own code
11:16 <@chrism> fuck yeha, kinda have to
11:17 <m1k[3y]> is that big of market?
11:18 <Volatile> stracing tomcat?
11:18 <Volatile> scary
11:22 <m1k[3y]> heh, we are going for lunch at a strip club
11:22 <m1k[3y]> don't know if i would trust the food there
11:23 <+sampson> so
11:23 <+sampson> i think i should start consulting
11:24 <+sampson> looking over the notes
11:24 <+sampson> everythign in there is exactly what i told the dude
11:24 <+sampson> and his issue isn't actually fixed
11:24 <Volatile> ive never been to a strip club where you could order food
11:24 <Volatile> hah
11:24 <+sampson> if i got $900 every time i've said "your queries suck" i'd be pretty fuckin well off
11:25 <m1k[3y]> is he using any caching?
11:25 <m1k[3y]> memcached?
11:25 <+sampson> yeah
11:26 <+sampson> but the problem is these queries require sql no cache
11:26 <+sampson> and he doesn't close his connections fast enough
11:26 <Volatile> where are you working that if it gets escalated beyond you, it's $1000?
11:26 <+sampson> i'm the last line
11:26 <+sampson> i told the guy that this query specifically was his issue
11:26 <+sampson> and his programmer needed to do something
11:26 <+sampson> so he asked if he should hire a consultant and i said go for it, i'm out of ideas
11:26 <+sampson> and the consultant said *exactly* what i said
11:26 <Volatile> oh
11:26 <Volatile> heh
11:26 <m1k[3y]> hahah
11:27 <Volatile> funny
11:27 <Volatile> consultant cost $1000/hr?
11:27 <Volatile> that's an expensive consultant.
11:27 <+sampson> he hired percona
11:28 <Volatile> percona is expensive.
11:28 <Volatile> heh
11:29 <+sampson> indeed
11:29 <+sampson> but fuck, that feels good
11:29 <+sampson> so vol would you like to try sampson consulting? only $999.50/hr
11:33 <Volatile> if i could afford consulting of that price, i wouldn't need a job
11:35 <+sampson> i know right
11:47 <+sampson> hey vol/chrism
11:48 <Volatile> hmm?
11:48 <+sampson> know of any good tools/utils i can use to execute a mysql query and see exactly what the hell is going on
11:48 <+sampson> to try and figure out why this specific query runs like such ass
11:48 <Volatile> definitely something chrism will know more about than i
11:48 <Volatile> i know enough SQL to get some shit done, but that's about where it ends heh
11:48 <+sampson> i know percona has some sort of debugging utilities but not sure what really they offer
11:56 <Volatile> http://www.mysql.com/products/enterprise/query.html
11:57 <@chrism> that query analyzer is cool
11:57 <@chrism> i bet you have to have some funky build of MySQL to use it though
11:57 <@chrism> or enable some sort of debugging symbols that'd make the whole box slow as balls
11:58 <Volatile> i bet the software implements the MySQL SQL engine internally
11:58 <Volatile> and just simulates a DB
12:00 <@chrism> I bet you could stfu too
12:00 <@chrism> HOW ABOUT THAT
12:00 <Volatile> :~~~~(
12:00 <@chrism> <3
12:00 <@chrism> oh fuckin hell
12:00 <@chrism> found my tomcat problem
12:01 <Volatile> exec tomcat?
12:01 <Volatile> ->
12:01 <Volatile> # exec tomcat
12:01 <@chrism> our installer flakes out on setting proper perms on like 2 configs
12:01 <Volatile> fixed.
12:01 <@chrism> hah
12:01 <@chrism> my $fucking_pile_of_shit = `jsvc.exec`
12:01 <@chrism> ;
12:01 <Volatile> lo
12:03 <Volatile> just handed miller high life
12:03 <Volatile> what do
12:03 <@chrism> beat someone with it
12:03 <@chrism> it's considerably more valuable as a blunt/sharp object than it is a cold malted barley beverage
12:04 <Volatile> what if you have no other alternative?
12:04 <Volatile> nothing of higher quality
12:04 <Volatile> does miller high life then become the highest calibre of malted beverage?
12:04 <@chrism> actually it has no malted barley
12:04 <@chrism> fwiw
12:04 <Volatile> malted rice?
12:04 <@chrism> I dont' think you can malt rice?
12:04 <Volatile> dunno
12:05 <@chrism> they don't rely on any sugars in the grain like you would with barley
12:05 <@chrism> i think they just add cheap fucking sugar
12:05 <Volatile> it *does* contain alchohol, and it's fizzy
12:05 <@chrism> haha yeah
12:05 <Volatile> these are two things im quite partial to
12:05 <@chrism> then again, so does 4loki
12:05 <@chrism> loko
12:05 <Volatile> never had
12:05 <@chrism> never should
12:05 <Volatile> any good?
12:05 <Volatile> guess not
12:05 <Volatile> heh
12:05 <@chrism> it's panty peeler for frat boys
12:05 <Volatile> that's the grape drink stuff right?
12:06 <@chrism> like koolaid with vodka
12:06 <@chrism> pmuch
12:06 <Volatile> you make it sound as if panty peeler is bad
12:06 <@chrism> hahaha
12:06 <@chrism> My girl will have a proper taste of alcohol before she's of drinking age
12:06 <@chrism> imma nip that shit in the bud
12:06 <Volatile> hah
12:06 <@chrism> "Every ucking party i go to, people hand me bud light, I can't drink that shit so I just drink pop"
12:06 <@chrism> fuck that may be a brilliant idea
12:06 <Volatile> daddy's little girl would never be "that girl" at the party
12:07 <@chrism> Imma just turn her into a beer snob
12:07 <Volatile> i grew up being fed tastes of michelob
12:07 <Volatile> that was my mom's beer of choice
12:07 <@chrism> lol
12:07 <@chrism> my lil girl will def. help me brew when she gets a bit older
12:07 <Volatile> when i was about 16 or so
12:07 <Volatile> she started buying me six packs of it
12:07 <@chrism> hah
12:07 <@chrism> figured you're bgoing to get it anyway
12:07 <@chrism> =P
12:08 <Volatile> to this day, i find the taste of michelob to be quite good
12:08 <@chrism> hah i should get her hooked on the exact opposite of bud/miller/etc
12:08 <Volatile> though i havent seen michelob in years
12:08 <@chrism> fucking barleywines and stouts
12:08 <Volatile> even though every american beer tastes like michelob
12:08 <@chrism> "I see a fridge full of keystone, does anyone have a russian imperial stout perchance?"
12:08 <Volatile> especially when i havent had beer in weeks
12:08 <@chrism> dont' say that every american beer tastes like michelobe
12:08 <@chrism> =\
12:09 <Volatile> the massproduced ones
12:09 <@chrism> *CHEAP MASS PrODOUCED* american beers, taste like michelobe
12:09 <@chrism> =P
12:09 <Volatile> bud, miller, etc
12:09 <@chrism> haha yeah
12:09 <@chrism> America actually has one of the best beer scenes in the world right now
12:09 <@chrism> like we're actually inventing styles, which hasn't happened in fucking hundreds of years
12:09 <Volatile> coors light has a very odd aftertaste
12:09 <Volatile> tastes like rose water
12:09 <@chrism> weird
12:09 <@chrism> i've seen rosehip based brews before
12:09 <@chrism> dunno how good that'd be
12:10 <@chrism> http://www.austinhomebrew.com/product_info.php?products_id=12877
12:11 <Volatile> mah
12:19 <Volatile> had cornflakes for breakfast today
12:19 <Volatile> first time in years
12:19 <Volatile> was good.
13:28 <@chrism> omfg
13:29 <@chrism> ran down my tomcat problem
13:29 <@chrism> so check this shit out
13:29 <@chrism> if you chown tomcat configs and af ew other things to a user:group that tomcat can't read, it'll *STILL* start
13:29 <@chrism> so like, sure it may have no fucking configuration file, BUT IT'S GONNA FUCKING START ANYWAY
13:30 <@chrism> we had a bug in our software where we called find to reset perms on the /usr/local/jakarta folder, but with find switches that don't exist in older versions of CentOS
13:30 <@chrism> so the perms were off, tomcat would fucking fire up anyway and confusion ensued
13:31 <chrispi> this is why tomcat is awesome
13:31 <chrispi> wait, no
13:42 <Volatile> heh
13:42 <Volatile> tomcat is awesome cuz it's written entirely in java
13:42 <Volatile> java is the future
13:48 <+sampson> chrispi:
13:48 <+sampson> er chrism welcome to tomcat
13:48 <+sampson> i bitched the everliving fuck about it a while ago
13:48 <+sampson> few years actually
13:48 <@chrism> did you just fucking hipster-admin me?
13:48 <+sampson> no
13:48 <+sampson> just "fuck tomcat"
13:48 <+sampson> ran into the same problem
13:48 <@chrism> lo
13:49 <@chrism> er lol
13:49 <@chrism> not 127.0.0.1
13:49 <@chrism> =\
13:49 <@chrism> but yeah, fuck tomcat
13:49 <@chrism> ya know, if India wasn't filled with dirt cheap programmers that ALL knew Java, my hunch is that it'd be fucking dead
13:49 <@chrism> or shoved off into tiny little niche market shits
13:50 <+sampson> yup
13:50 <+sampson> this was all stemmed from a cluster that a guy wanted
13:50 <+sampson> they outsourced to india for two different attempts
13:50 <+sampson> both required like tomcat 5.ancient and php 4.something
13:50 <+sampson> i bitched out the head dev that wasn't outsourced that this was terrible because it's insecure out the door
13:51 <+sampson> and also pointed out that the versions were the same on each project, 2 years apart so they were reusing the project so it would be just as flawed
13:51 <+sampson> those indians got fired really fast
13:53 <kubi> lol
13:53 <kubi> yeah you did
13:53 <kubi> phobosd: the daley one?
13:56 <kubi> that shit was pretty funny
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14:23 <bigdaddym> aw yeah
14:23 <bigdaddym> fuck
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15:33 <+sampson> aw encyclopediadramatica is no more
15:33 <+sampson> sadmonster
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16:03 <mattman> HOORAH
16:06 <mattman> nerd burglars
16:17 <+sampson> holy fuck
16:17 <+sampson> you're alive?
16:17 <+sampson> wait that can't be mattman
16:17 <+sampson> he's dead
16:17 <+sampson> IMPOSTER
16:17 <m1k[3y]> mattman!
16:17 <m1k[3y]> bro
16:17 <m1k[3y]> i missed you mang
16:18 <mattman> hey sam
16:18 <mattman> and mikey
16:18 <+sampson> mattcakes
16:18 <+sampson> im gonna be in chicago in may
16:18 <mattman> i used this day off to hit up microcenter and replace my dead HDD
16:18 <+sampson> tilted kilt?????
16:18 <mattman> so now my IRC box is back alive
16:18 <mattman> sampson yes plz
16:18 <+sampson> me gusta
16:18 <mattman> i missed IRC
16:18 <mattman> sucked without it
16:18 <mattman> i worked a lot more than usual
16:19 <+sampson> how do you feel about judas
16:20 <mattman> i dunno omg!
16:20 <mattman> where is andy what is this??
16:20 <+sampson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAWpkZSCMXU the new gaga you gaybie
16:21 <mattman> i have not heard this
16:21 <mattman> but her last video was fuckin whack bro
16:21 <mattman> even for her
16:21 <+sampson> she wrote a song in the eyes of mary magdaline
16:21 <+sampson> so now all the psycho fundies are screaming antichrist harder than ever
16:21 <mattman> lol
16:21 <mattman> awesome
16:22 <mattman> judahh ga ga
16:22 <mattman> hah
16:23 <mattman> i dont really love the song
16:23 <mattman> i am just glad to be back in your arms
16:24 <+sampson> <3
16:32 <m1k[3y]> sampson
16:32 <m1k[3y]> for you
16:32 <m1k[3y]> http://www.uproxx.com/feature/2011/04/50-cats-straight-chillin/#page/1
16:36 <+sampson> only 50?
16:36 <+sampson> that'll last like 50 seconds
16:37 <+sampson> is it bad that i've seen all of those but 2
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17:43 <@chrism> SO TIRED
17:43 <@chrism> MUST KILL ANOTHER 20 MINUTES
17:43 <@chrism> RAWR
17:46 <m1k[3y]> ok it's beer o clock
17:47 <m1k[3y]> billy marks
17:47 <m1k[3y]> here i come
17:47 <@chrism> (gay bar)
17:47 <@chrism> pz
17:47 <m1k[3y]> hahha
17:48 <m1k[3y]> pz
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